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Old 01-03-2006, 05:07 AM
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False KR problem.

Well with the tuned OBDII-OBDI conversion in my sig i would get up to 8º of knock on my scanmaster under light throttle. I had a LT4 KM and Ion desensitized the KS a little. I put my stock PCM back in and im still getting it but not as much. Its like the OBDI PCM magnified the knock. I was running 92 octane but im running 91 octane now and im sure its false. I have checked all the spark plugs to make sure they are tight and a few other things and i dont know where to look anymore.

Im getting a dyno tune later today and i would like to know where im getting this false knock from before i go in. Is it normal for LT1's to get some knock like this. I notice this morning that after driveing for about 30 min it went away for a while but then i came back again. Im stumped on this one. Please help me out.
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Old 01-03-2006, 05:35 AM
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Re: False KR problem.

I don't know what type oil your using, but I was shocked how much 10W40 helped my KR......I tried everything. I was attempting to quiet down the valvetrain a little by using a heavier oil, and the result was the KR issue went away.

My noise makers are forged/floating pistons, roller rockers and headers but I use an LT1 KM.
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Re: False KR problem.

Im useing Mobil 1 fully synthetic 5w-30 for the colder winter months but i useually use a 10w-30 when it warms up. I dont remember if i had this same problem with the 10w-30 though. Would different oil viscosities cause something like this.
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Old 01-03-2006, 07:48 AM
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Re: False KR problem.

I was using 10W30 all year round, and to answer your question, I can only tell you my personal experience which just happened last week.

I used 10W40 to try and quieten it down some, and my KR issue disappeared, which was unexpected.......but GREATLY welcomed nonetheless.
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Re: False KR problem.

go here first:
http://shbox.com/1/4th_gen_tech2.html#knock_sensor

I had 8 degrees of false knock in my engine. I ended up doing the resistor mod as a quick band-aid and eliminated it. With no other changes the car ran 5 mph quicker in the 1/4.
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Re: False KR problem.

Can we assume Ion modified the OBD-I PCM internally, so it would work with the 100Kohm knock sensor in your 96?
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Re: False KR problem.

Yes. But im going back to OBDII now so that shouldnt be a problem.
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Old 01-03-2006, 07:25 PM
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Re: False KR problem.

Do knock sensors ever "go bad". If not what else could be causeing this false knock.
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Old 01-04-2006, 08:02 PM
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my knock sensor was bad, it was reading all messed up numbers. Looking back on it I should have just replaced the knock sensor but that would have costed money, we already had the resistor to do the mod.
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Re: False KR problem.

Put your knock sensor on a switch and turn it off when ya race and on for everyday.
Do a search there is plenty of info on how to install on a switch and with the resistor.
LT4 KM has never cured a retard problem for me.
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