Just Say No

 

It's worse then heroine i swear....Wait...er...how would i know that lol...I posted the nitrous debate on a local site and seeing their responses are overwhelmingly that's not N/A and the first post was the "fake boob" analogy, that was funny.

William

 

n/a being all motor is an urban legend and by deffinition is wrong. Your not forcing the air/fual mixture in under pressure. That would be forced induction, no longer naturally aspirated. Now if you run a -30 AN line and seal it to the throttle body and crack that bottle open to force in the nitrous then your no longer naturally letting the cylinders fill with regular atmospheric pressure. BUt no one will do that for bvious reasons. N2O doesnt force more air in, the same volume of gasses (fuel and air) fill the cylinder as when there is no nitrous. It just reacts with the heat giving off more oxygen and the extra fuel helps burn it.

Same amount of gasses go in = N/A

TURBO or BLOWER forcing air iun at 20 PSI = no longer N/A


Just adding fuel to the fire, im sure someones gonna have a heart attack about the urban legend thing lol

 

Can someone show me a deffinition somewhere of naturaul aspiration, that mentions what is being introduced into the motor please? Or does n/a simply mean the vacuum created by the piston dropping in the bore is teh only thing drawing the air/fuel ratio in.

As to the comment about the high pressure spray "helping move things along" if anything if there is too much being sprayed in it wil come out the other side of the intke at the filter like was said in the previous post.

How can it not be N/A if one end of teh intake is open to the atmosphere? Can i cut a huge hole in the compressed air side of a turbo motor and itll still run under boost? Of course not, so how can an open to atmosphere intake be under pressure????? It cant can it?

Everyones argument that its not natural to drive down the street ad hit a pocket of N2O, is about as valid as me saying giraffes eat leaves. Both statements are correct but have NO bearing on the topic at hand.

 

***** are fun. a$$ is nice too!

 

It's easy...look up natural, then aspiration, and use your own common sense of the internal combustion engine to relate it to the topic at hand.

It's really quick easy to see how nitrous is not in anyway forced induction, but it IS a power adder. See, two different labels.

 

I think this debate is over two different things. The outcome i've come to is that most people aren't fighting over whether it's naturally aspirated or forced induced but whether it's NOT the other (i.e. It's not natural or it's not forced). I think the line between the two isn't as definite as i first felt. I will admit that it is in no way "forced" into the engine but i also feel that it isn't "natural" Maybe this falls between the two classifications? Make sense? Each is right in their own way but not fully explaining the process.

William

 

What i feel is...

Is nitrous a power adder - YES

Can a motor be N/A with nitrous - YES

just my .02 cents

 

I still feel nitrous doesn't = N/A but from what i've read it's definitly not "forced."

 

Ok "NATURAL" = HOW AIR IS GETTING INTO THE MOTOR AS IN THE FORCE THAT MAKES THE AIR GET INTO THE CYLINDERS.....NOT "NATURAL" AS THE AIR WE BREATHE.

 

nitrous oxide is a form of compressed air due to being exteremly cold (so the air is less dense) and once that air heats up, it expands... so techically ure not 'naturally' aspirating the engine

 

Actually when the air is cold it is more dense. And once again, it's natural in the way the engine brings in its A/F mix...not WHAT...HOW. Are we close or do I need to draw a picture?

 

LOL i'd like to see the picture you'd draw please...I cant wait if need be. Now we're breaking it down to aspects of the induction to make it natural instead of the all around general concept of it, we're saying no the engine does this part of it naturally there for it is "natural." I think there is nothing "natural" about supplying the engine with an external source of oxygen.

William

 

HAS THE ORIGIONAL POSTER OF THIS THREADS QUESTION BEEN ANSWERED?

least we turn this into a farting contest

I Am Sofa King We Todd Ed

 

yea ive learned that everyone has a different opinion on the subject