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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 02:04 PM
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Re: differences between N/A and all-motor

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as·pi·rate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sp-rt)
tr.v. as·pi·rat·ed, as·pi·rat·ing, as·pi·rates

Medicine. To remove (liquids or gases) by means of a suction device.

Well seeing as how aspiration has to do with suction, which would be the vaccum created by the intake stroke, then technically nitrous is still N/A because the engine still gets it's air by the use of vaccum, unlike forced induction where there is no suction in the intake.

I setteled it by being intellectual...I feel funny
You did settle it nitrous is sucked into the engine by vaccum, so it is aspirated, however its not natural. Nitrous=U/A (unnaturally aspirated). Case closed.
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 02:08 PM
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JonCR96Z
You did settle it nitrous is sucked into the engine by vaccum, so it is aspirated, however its not natural. Nitrous=U/A (unnaturally aspirated). Case closed.
Natural refers to the atmospheric pressure that fills the cylinders after combustion occurs and an absence of pressure, or a vacuum is formed. To aspirate means to "breathe."

Like I've said before this has NOTHING to do with the a/f mixture, "case closed."

It is true that society generally agrees that n/a = all motor, but come on is society right about everything? Use your own brain and figure things out for once, maybe think a little differently and you'll realize that there are things that are generally accepted in our society, which are wrong.
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 02:12 PM
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 02:18 PM
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I am no longer going to post in this particular thread...Everyone that thinks Nitrous =N/A is so stuck in their ways that nothing is going to change their mind. After showing that it's not "natural" in the enviroment, it is the same as blower/turbo in effect putting oxygen in the cylinders that wouldn't naturally be present, and a plethora of other sites confirming the argument that N/A=all motor and motor alone. This thread has become more pointless than it already was...Enjoy living in your own delusions

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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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I am no longer going to post in this particular thread...Everyone that thinks Nitrous =N/A is so stuck in their ways that nothing is going to change their mind. After showing that it's not "natural" in the enviroment, it is the same as blower/turbo in effect putting oxygen in the cylinders that wouldn't naturally be present, and a plethora of other sites confirming the argument that N/A=all motor and motor alone. This thread has become more pointless than it already was...Enjoy living in your own delusions
You know why they want it to be that way right? So they can pretend they are doing something awesome. So they can think they are at the same level as a high compression, huge cam, well built motor. Take the breast implant example....they want to pretend their fake breasts are real.............LMAO


[QUOTE]"N/A" and "all motor" aren't equivalent terms; one solely describes the intake method[QUOTE]

You are correct on some of that, but don't forget intake method doesn't stop at the intake maifold
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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Re: differences between N/A and all-motor

Originally Posted by will69camaro
I am no longer going to post in this particular thread...Everyone that thinks Nitrous =N/A is so stuck in their ways that nothing is going to change their mind. After showing that it's not "natural" in the enviroment, it is the same as blower/turbo in effect putting oxygen in the cylinders that wouldn't naturally be present, and a plethora of other sites confirming the argument that N/A=all motor and motor alone. This thread has become more pointless than it already was...Enjoy living in your own delusions

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Spoken like a true narrow minded american

I'm sorry that I was wrong...
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 02:37 PM
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I dont think it is a matter of right or wrong it is a matter if the starter of the thread has had his question answered.

The same can be true of: In the movie Howard the Duck was it a duck playing Howard? Or was it an actor playing a duck playing howard. And can ducks talk in real life? I think so cause i saw it on the teee veee. What about Lea Thompson in the movie? Was she committing a moral sin if she was doinking a duck? If she doinked a duck does that mean she would doink a hamster?

Boy the mystries of the universe are really getting complicated these days....
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Cwynn
Natural refers to the atmospheric pressure that fills the cylinders after combustion occurs and an absence of pressure, or a vacuum is formed. To aspirate means to "breathe."

Like I've said before this has NOTHING to do with the a/f mixture, "case closed."

It is true that society generally agrees that n/a = all motor, but come on is society right about everything? Use your own brain and figure things out for once, maybe think a little differently and you'll realize that there are things that are generally accepted in our society, which are wrong.
Ok. there have been a couple of ways described here that say that nitrous isn't N/A. One of which says that once nitrous enters the cylinder and combustion forces act on it that more oxygen is present in the cylinder which is entirely true, yet some go on to say that it still sucked it in on its own.

If this were the case I would agree, but after n2o enters the stream of air leading to the motor atmosheric pressure is changed. If you were to hook up an air tank operating at 60psi to your intake and turn it on you would increase pressure in your intake tract making it less work for the motor to suck the air in. Just as a turbo or supercharger would do only to a lesser extent.

This would be essentially the same as adding nitrous until combustion occured where the chemical elements take affect. The only difference would be that nitrous is running at more pressure and its colder, alot colder. Infact so cold that it would cool the air around it also changing atmospheric pressure.

I'm not saying that this is the only way to look at it but nothing in this thread or in outside arguements that were linked here has proven otherwise and as far as using my own brain, I beleive that I did where all you have done is stated your opinion or posted info from Webster's brain .Which by the way didn't mention nitrous as N/A or not. Maybe you should write them and have them include it, so we can see what they think.

Jon
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 02:55 PM
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Re: differences between N/A and all-motor

This is a stupid post, now lets pick on "all motor" shouldn't it be called "all engine" since a MOTOR is ELECTRIC?
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 02:56 PM
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Re: differences between N/A and all-motor

Originally Posted by bunker
This is a stupid post, now lets pick on "all motor" shouldn't it be called "all engine" since a MOTOR is ELECTRIC?

Actually no...haha...and I know this is wrong because check the definitions for both words.

But I give you an E for effort
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 02:57 PM
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Re: differences between N/A and all-motor

So how many would consider a fuel injected car to be naturally aspirated using some of the "definitions" above??
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 02:58 PM
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best way to settle it once and for all

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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 03:22 PM
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Re: differences between N/A and all-motor

Originally Posted by bunker
This is a stupid post, now lets pick on "all motor" shouldn't it be called "all engine" since a MOTOR is ELECTRIC?
I guess no more post in here from me on the nitrous argument but here is this from websters:

Main Entry: 1mo·tor
Pronunciation: 'mO-t&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin, from movEre to move
1 : one that imparts motion; specifically : PRIME MOVER
2 : any of various power units that develop energy or impart motion: as a : a small compact engine b : INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE; especially : a gasoline engine c : a rotating machine that transforms electrical energy into mechanical energy

Says "internal combustion engine" is a motor even as an example...Doesnt' get much more clear than that.



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