i just changed my plug wires and plugs cause i figured it was my problem with the stumbling and all that stuff. i ended up finding 2 wires that were nearly burned in half. so i had a smile on my face thinking i would finally have it figured out. so i put some taylor spiro pros on and some delco rapidfire plugs and soon as the car gets warm its doing the same thing. and i can see wires arcing. they are brand new and none of them are burned. anywhere they touch each other or close to some metal they arc. even on the dang wire seperators. am i using the wrong kind of wires or something for the delteq? im bout to just say screw it all together.

 

dude, welcome to my hell. I have been trying to figure it out too! I still have the opti, but still I have like a fuzzy backgroud arc from the boot to the metal hex of the plug. BRAND NEW WIRES, RAPID FIRE PLUGS, OPTI, AND COIL. So, I think I am just F*ed. I can't figure it out. Did you use die electric grease? I did the first time, this time no. It still arcs. I don't know anymore either dude.

 

Were they universal-fit wires, or car-specific?? Either way, you may have screwed it up slightly, but nothing that's unfixable. Easy mistake to make, too. If you bought car-specific wires, they've probably got all the wrong boots & contacts on them. If you buy a universal kit, you get 2 sets of boots and contacts, depending on your application. If running the optispark, you'd use the larger, more flexible boot. If delteq, you'd use the other boots. They're stiffer and make a sharp 90* turn. The contacts you'd use are the shorter ones, opposite of what you'd use if running wires to the optispark distributor. The only reason I suspect this is, the "optispark" boots are a little looser fit than "delteq" boots. If the contacts are exposed enough, they will most certainly arc between coils. Check what your boots look like. The ones that snap onto your plugs are irrelevant- it's the boots that fit on the coilpack contacts that you gotta look at...

 

yes i used the grease this time. i used it last time also but they were accel wires and 2 of them ended up getting burned. i used fire sleeves this time but took them off to see if i could see more arcing.

 

i have the universal wires with 90* boots on both ends. i didnt even get them with opti ends cause i knew i wouldnt need them. i just dont get it. what is making these things arc..brand new wires and no cracks.

 

Where exactly is the arcing occuring?

 

It is a "halo effect" caused by to much plug gap. Been trying to get -- firebirdStud -- to narrow the gap to .035 for a couple of days.He want's to do other things and has not cured the problem.
1badasZ narrow the plug gap to .035 and see if it doesn't cure it. Ya may have other issues also but that should take care of the "glow".

 

ok will do. can you explain the halo effect? and do i need to narrow the gap cause of the extra compression or something? not doubting you just want to know

 

They do i lot better job of explaining.

http://www.ngkspark.com.au/tech_inde...g_analysis.htm

 

I agree the plug gaps don't need to be any bigger than the .035

Bret

 

Dude, don't be a dick! Do know how hard it is to do that? It takes half a day to remove all the plugs and put them back in. I indexed them, becuase I am all about making my motor the best it can be. Even if I pull them all out and re gap them, put them in and run it, and it did no good, I still have to pull them all out again and put them back to the stock gap, then put them back in. I do appreciate the help, but I don't have that kind of time to do something that may or may not help. That is why I am going to try the water gun thing. I will spray each plug with it running, and at each plug if the motor spits and sputters at all, I know which wire or plug is f*ed up. I will post with what I find, as that will take me 20 minutes. I can't afford a whole day that might not help, being a junior in college I need to spend my time more constructively at this point. We are so close to having to put my car in storage anyway as the snow will be flying soon, I see myself placing less importance in getting it to run perfect and more importance focusing on finals that will be coming up with school sooner than I would like. Again, if the water doesn't work, I will prolly have to do the plug pulling, but I would rather do easy things first. Sorry for the hijack and long post. I still appreciate all the helpful comments 1racerdude.

 

Even if it takes that much time if it fixes the problem is it worth it?

 

Not being a dick.
Ya got all kind of time to do all the rest of the off the wall s*** and don't want to try to correct it 'cause it takes "to much time"
If ya don't want to spend time to fix it,then quit complaining about it.

 

Why would you pull the plugs back out if it didn't help just to put them at stock gap, its just not necessary. A half a day to fix a stubborn problem is a half a day well spent, and by the sound of it you need a break from all the school work anyways.

 

Really hard to rationalize those two statements.... racerdude tells the original poster what to do to fix the problem, and you - having hijacked the thread - tell him he's a dick???