LT1 Based Engine Tech 1993-1997 LT1/LT4 Engine Related

Crank Hub STUCK

Old Jul 16, 2008 | 08:56 AM
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My man, go get the hub tool I was talking about at Sears. Or better yet come and get it from me and this thing will be off in minutes. It uses the ears of the hub and theres a rod the presses up against the crank bolt to push the hub off.
Old Jul 16, 2008 | 09:10 AM
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Is that the drive end of the extention in the pic? It's hard to tell. If so you could grind off the burrs and mushroomed part and see if you can attach another extention and turn it.
Old Jul 16, 2008 | 09:46 AM
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i would drill the extention until the mushroomed part is gone and its just below the surface of the hub.

then just take a real hub puller and get the hub off, then get the extention off.
Old Jul 16, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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I would just use the harmonic balancer puller and pull the hub off and see what you can do then.
What was the point of using an extension?
How was that going to help get the hub out?
If you lucky you might be able to get it out with a grip pliers or you might have to get an exactor to get the extension out.
http://www.brandsplace.com/tool-hand...xtractors.html
Or get a cheap ratchet or a sears one and try not to dent it all up and see if you can tap it on to the extension then you should be able to get it out.
Old Jul 16, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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Everyone who is suggesting using a balancer puller, what exactly is he supposed to press against to pull the hub off?

He can't thread a bolt into the crank to push against and already has an extension stuck in there. If he continues to push against the already broken extension he will just mess up the crank snout even more.
Old Jul 16, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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Getting the hub off is secondary now. He needs to clear the hole before he pulls it or it will make it worse. The point of the extention is to insert in the square drive stuck in the crank snout once he cleans it up and turn it with a ratchet or breaker bar to remove it.
Old Jul 16, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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The hub has a tiny *** 7/16 hole in the center of it and the extension broke off flush. With that limited space to work with his only chance is to get the hub off and hope that there is enough of the extension sticking out of the crank to do what you guys suggested like using pliers to pull it out or another extension to break it free and pull it out. He can always attempt to tap the hole again or helicoil it after the fact.
Old Jul 16, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ulakovic22
Everyone who is suggesting using a balancer puller, what exactly is he supposed to press against to pull the hub off?

He can't thread a bolt into the crank to push against and already has an extension stuck in there. If he continues to push against the already broken extension he will just mess up the crank snout even more.

OK look harmonic balancer puller.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/crazypurgatory/2674090913/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/crazypurgatory/2674911080/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/crazypurgatory/2674091075/
harmonic balancer puller Insert that goes onto the end of the puller so it does not thread into the crank.
All it's going to do is press against the extension.
I can't see how it would mess things up any more then they are now.
It would seam that the extension has bottomed out in the crank so.
Once he gets the harmonic balancer hub off he can work on getting the extension out.
It will be much easier to get the extension out once the harmonic balancer hub off.
Old Jul 16, 2008 | 12:47 PM
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Yes thanks, I know what a puller looks like I agree that he needs to get the hub off first, but I don't see good things coming from pushing against an extension that has already broken off in the crank when he tried to pull it the first time.
Old Jul 16, 2008 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ulakovic22
Yes thanks, I know what a puller looks like I agree that he needs to get the hub off first, but I don't see good things coming from pushing against an extension that has already broken off in the crank when he tried to pull it the first time.
How can it make thing worse?
It looks like the extension has bottomed out in the crank.
If thats the case it can't hurt anything but the end of the extension witch is messed up already.
I just don't understand why he used an extension?
If he used the harmonic balancer puller all this mess could have been avoided.
I used it on my 97 LT1 with no problem it's the "right tool for the Job"
It's too bad he too far away from me I could help him.
Old Jul 16, 2008 | 01:47 PM
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If he pushed against it and it broke the first time, what's going to stop the extension from mushrooming out or little pieces of it breaking off as he pushes against it more? Just because it's bottomed out doesn't mean it won't break. It was bottomed out in the crank the first time when it broke.

He did use a puller and used an entension to push against instead of using a bolt. Many people do it that way although it's not really recommened. Case in point is he used 2 - 1/4 extensions and they both broke on him. I wouldn't be real inclined to continue using the extension to push against after that.

Marverick made a good point about cutting the hub off. That would defintely be worth it I think if he had a cut off wheel because the hub is already screwed up anyway.
Old Jul 16, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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I would be using a torch and slide hammer to get that bad boy off. I think any other way will risk screwing up the crank.
Old Jul 16, 2008 | 07:11 PM
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Ok guys sorry I wasnt on here to check today, I was out working on my car. I got that thing from sears and its what you described but the rod was not long enough ( gonna return it and get my 50 bux back). I didnt get into the crank so that wasnt messed up, just the hub. What I ended up doing is using another 1/4 inch extension and pressing against that one. But instead of using the flared rod I put on of the tips on it that looks like a flat plug, to utilize the total surface area. Then it came out like butter. Thanks for all your help. For those who search a 1/4 extension isnt a bad idea, but shoebox's headbolt thing is better. You live and learn right
Old Jul 16, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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good job - hopefully the worst is behind you
Old Jul 16, 2008 | 09:24 PM
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Thanks, it should be. Tomorow Ill set up the valve springs then the rockers then start putting everything back together. I really cant wait. BTW ow do you think it will run on the tune I have for my current mods till I can get a date set with my tuner. Its a comp 224/230 on a 112

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