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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jazsun
160 stat does ****.
It does a lot if you have your fan temps set accordingly. The engine will run around 180 instead of 200 plus with the stock stat. Why do you think guys let their cars cool off for hours and then make their best 1/4 times. Cooler engine = more power
Old Dec 8, 2005 | 09:35 PM
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Did it really take of .2 sec???? or did you take into fact that you might have gotten better at driving?
No its an automatic. I drove it many times both at Gainesville Raceway and Orlando Speed world and all of my times were about 14.25. After putting on the Air foil I went to GVille and ran 14.06-14.09 consistantly. But i did find out the launching technique and dropped the time from 14.9 to 14.2. Anyway the air foil worked and all i paid is $25.
Old Dec 8, 2005 | 09:39 PM
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Free mods. are a good start... also, what other stuff have you done to the car besides the airfoil?
airfoil is the only thing done. everything else is stock. btw. had a 97 GTP and plan on buying another
Old Dec 8, 2005 | 09:43 PM
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What are you guys talking about? As soon as I installed my AirFoil I was tearing up the streets. Airfoils rule.
Old Dec 8, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mean Green
don't kid yourself, those airfoils are crap. they look pretty when you take off the elbow and that's about it. they increaser maybe 2-5 hp, far from enough to actually change your ET's.

you need to be a bit more specific on how much you're actually willing to spend or how much power you're trying to make. I'd say do the free mods (free obviously), then delete the cat and have a cutout put in ($30-$50), get some sticky tires ($200). those things will probably drop your ET's the most.
I actually gained 20hp with an airfoil, we dyno tested it at school. also what i am talking about is the free mods.
Old Dec 8, 2005 | 09:57 PM
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i'll see those dyno sheets please.
Old Dec 9, 2005 | 06:33 AM
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no possible way that all the 20hp was from the airfoil...

most likely it was something else, air density, operating temp, better gas

normal variation in dyno results.

and i think the stat is a very worthwhile mod, particularly for southern states. my car runs consistently cooler, which is better for power (to a point).

and you don't have to have the fans reset, for everyday driving around stock is fine. now if you plan to keep the car running in the staging lanes...yeah a fan switch or new settings help. but on the street stock is sufficient
Old Dec 9, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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I don't know how we did it but we ran the car 3 runs at about 6:45am without the air foil and then ran it 30min later with it and got close to 20 hp. sorry no dyno sheets. That was back in August while i was in school + the instructor kept the papers for a grade. we actually used a resistor in the IAT on a 99 Grand Prix GTP and gained 2 or 3 hp. Lost 45-50hp on the Tornado. Lost 20-30hp with a K&N Cold air intake.
Old Dec 9, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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Lost 20-30hp with a K&N Cold air intake.


Uhhhh, what did you do, plug the end of it or something???
Old Dec 10, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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Uhhhh, what did you do, plug the end of it or something???
No left it wide open. every car we put a coldair Intake to they lost power. 04 GTO. 2000 camaro ss. 95 mustang gt. 98 crown vic. a dodge neon acutually gained 2hp. all intakes were made for that secific car. we took a 3" pvc pipe and hooked it to the GTP and gained 17.
Old Dec 10, 2005 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BAvila21
No left it wide open. every car we put a coldair Intake to they lost power. 04 GTO. 2000 camaro ss. 95 mustang gt. 98 crown vic. a dodge neon acutually gained 2hp. all intakes were made for that secific car. we took a 3" pvc pipe and hooked it to the GTP and gained 17.

how exactly did you put a cold air on the 2000 camaro SS??? What brand was it?? Dude, all this stuff your posting is sounding like a lot of BS to me. I mean come on there is no way you gained 20 horse from an Airfoil and there is no way you lost 20-30 with a cold air.

Back to the topic, I would just strap some nitrous to it. I had a 150 shot on my car for a while and it dropped my ET considerably. I dropped .2 on a failing fuel pump and a 75 shot. Then after I upgraded my pump, put in the 150 jets, and strapped some slicks to it, I beat a consistent 13.0 02 SS by about 2-3 cars 3 times in a row. So I estimate that I was in the high twelves somewhere aroun 12.8. But thats just an estimate, its all a different story at the track.

And if you plan on doing a nitrous kit the right way you better expect to spend around 1500 dollars for everything. I took the nitrous off the Bird because after a few launches on M/T Street Radials and spraying the 150 my rear end and clutch were making some god awful noises.
Old Dec 10, 2005 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by teke184
if you want cheap...

buy a 3" inlet K&N or similar cone filter, put it in place of the stock air box.

have a cutout installed under the rear seats before the axle

gut the cat(s)

throttle body bypass and 160 stat
Just do all those cheap mods, thats bascially all I have done and I run consistantly 13.5-13.6 on street tires, and consistanly 13.6-13.7 on NItto DR. All my mods are in my sig.

After Christmas tho I plan on more mods such as headers, ory, rear end griddle, shift kit, and a dyno tune by Jeff Creech
Old Dec 10, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 97formulakid
how exactly did you put a cold air on the 2000 camaro SS??? What brand was it?? Dude, all this stuff your posting is sounding like a lot of BS to me. I mean come on there is no way you gained 20 horse from an Airfoil and there is no way you lost 20-30 with a cold air.
We don't drive these cars on the road. I have a 95 firebird that i drive at home. the other cars are in a garage at UTI in Orlando. we poped the hood and had it sticking out of the enging bay. It was a K&N. Actuall i think i messed up we lost 40hp with the tornado and the Cold air intake. We lost 15 with just the cold air intake. it sound like sh.. but i am not lying.
Old Dec 10, 2005 | 02:58 PM
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BTW I am not talking about the K&N air filters just the cold air intakes. and its not just K&N. some other brand did it to. just can't remember it.
Old Dec 10, 2005 | 03:51 PM
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damn, well at least we know what's going on at UTI now...



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