I wouldnt go that far...LT1 was the baddest engine from 92 til the LS1 camaro came out in 98, it won engine of the year a few times if im not mistaken. Ive had 2 and know plenty w/ them and there reliable as hell....My buddy blew his 98 Cobra engine...and ive read on corral.net that it happens to others ...btw the LT1 was out from 92-97 and the LS1 was from 97-03....thats the same time considering they no longer make the camaro

 

I don't care what anyone says about having a "stock" mustang....especially if the own a "cobra" leather jacket Every guy I know with a mustang, including my brother and the 5 that he has owned, they are a bunch of liars. 99% of them have atleast exhaust and gears. The 4.6's are a lot more expensive to "serious" mod. It was like almost a grand for labor on headers on my brothers 99. I definately think the 96-98 GT's are over rated, but the cobras are a different story. They are pretty quick, especially if they are tuned, have gears and exhaust. My friend bought a 99 cobra, worst cobra ever built, and I beat it with just bolt ons. It was rated at 320 and it actually only had 275 because of the recalls. When he first drove it off the lot, the rear suspension dropped...that awesome independent suspension. Back to the topic...if he is truly stock...it will be close...good luck.

JOHN

 

LT1 is the shizznizzelnit...

 

Main point being...Cobra's need quite a few mods in order to just keep up with stock LT1's...

Plus condiering in order to successfully run a decent time at the track with any Mustang, you'd have to drop the stock suspension and add total aftermarket (for low 1/4's)...Z28's on the other hand have a stock suspension that is soft and prime for the track...even beats out the suspension of the SS's at the track...and can successfully run low 1/4's consistently with simple bolt-ons...

 

Whew!!!

Appears I stirred up quite a controversy!

Thanks for all the replies!

Looks like the only way I will settle this is to "Line 'em up!"

I'll let ya'll know what happens!

E

 

Trey, why are you so smart-assed? Just reading your posts annoys me.

Alright, i love mustangs, camaros, trans ams, vettes, and all that domestic muscle. I think its just this simple the DOHC 96-98 Cobras rated at 305 Hp is a pretty decent match for an LT-1, the newer Cobras NA rated at 320 are to much for stock LT-1. Guys...get off fords nuts lol...why bash the mustang?...they could be driving a prelude instead? Seriously..the mustang is one of the last american muscle cars still in production kicking *** on the street. I can think of pros/cons for both the f-bodys and stangs...but just because we have more displacement doesnt mean we will automatically kick all mustangs ***'s all the time!


I def. dont see the LT-1 as being a failure. How many platforms is the LS-1 on.... that is still in production?

 

"Actually in the August 2002 Issue of MM&FF a STOCK 03' Cobra put down 381 RWHP, where as a 2002 SS put down 316 RWHP."

I remember that. An 03 versus the 2nd fastest 02 camaro. What a comparison. Amazing they failed to mention the factory ZL1 which had more power.

 

LMAO ...ZL1...figured somebody would bring that up.

 

Yeah, it was like 430 hp or something. I read about it in a couple of mags, and I'm not talking about the special non production 600 hp ZL1s.

 

Just... okay....

someone do the math...

Start off with a stock 97 z28 and stock Cobra... any year.

$22,000 for a nice low mileage clean z28
$35,000 for a beaten on 03 Cobra

Put the difference into the Z28 and you'll be owning anything on the road.

 

I am officialy reporting this thread to moderators to get locked or moved.

Nothing but ignorance in this thread. There is more a good engine than hp. buy a $1500 fox body and put $20500 into it. see whos chasing who.

Mustang is a better platform to mod on period. Cheaper parts. Easier to work on. Better ignition. Slew of other things.
Mustang was just a better vehicle all around- maybe not in a strait line but in almost every other aspect. Thats why the camaro is gone and the cobra makes 380rwhp.

 

the main problem with the satngs is they are so restricted i had a 95gt (rip) with upper and lower intake to gt40 and exhaust and gears i was bouncin in the high 12s

 

Never said that the cobra motor wasn't good.. it was and is a dohc marvel. Chevy decided to stay with pushrods.. the fact that ford messed up on their horsepower numbers and were playing catchup throughout the 90s is undeniable..

Read up on comparisons and see which car was the better in the late 90s in every aspect..

Mustangs were a more popular inferior product.. hence they are still around and fbodies aren't.. well at least for a few years.. the best mustangs and camaros are yet to come. For now the cobra rules the roost..

You do need to check your board attitude a bit..

 

Keep dreaming...quite a few mods to keep up with a stock LT1? Try stock for stock if you get a fast LT1 you may have a shot otherwise I'd say it'll be even or you may even get beat by a tenth. Someone earlier commented that the 99+ was only 275 hp...you seem to forget about the RECALL where they FIXED the problem...friend of mine (well not really a friend more like a guy I talked cars with) had one and he dynoed 251 to the wheels before the fix. After the fix he put down 277 rwhp 277 is pretty good. Also people are saying the LT1 has more power potential the then the DOHC cobra...I don't know about all that. Those DOHC cars respond SUPERBLY to forced induction...I will say the LT1 probably has a stronger bottom end...but not necessarily better for building power...Perhaps in some of ya'lls experiences you've been able to trounce cobra's...hell I've beaten one...I attribute it solely to DRIVER error...the cars when driven properly are extremely fast. I drove my friends to a 14.2 the first time I drove it at 102...spun too hard...next couple runs I dropped it off into the 13.80s it was stock...he wrecked it before he could mod it...they are FAST PERIOD....GET OVER IT people...

 

To answer the original question, if by "all the bolt-ons" you mean full exhaust/CAI etc.. you should stomp on a stock 96-98 cobra. Stock vs. Stock the cobra has a very slight edge, but you're not stock.