I think u are forgeting about a very important thing...WEIGHT...frank's car is VERY light, i think 3200 with him in it.

KEn's car 384 rwhp and 11.6 @ 117 (adds up )
Joe's camed cars 420+ rwhp (on special dynos) trap 117mph

 

My whole point is Joe is not specing a cam any better that say cam motion which alot of people swear by. you guys are putting him on a pedistal. i have a few cars that i have done that run well also but you don't hear them guys on here bragging about their cars.

 

talking about weight every 100lbs is roughly a tenth or 10 hp.

 

Altajar your name keeps getting brought up b/c you are talking bad about cars that run quite a bit quicker ET and mph than you are so when you get your car to run quick faster than 11.99-12.00 then you may be able to talk about the slower cars
Saints Franks car weighs 3100lbs or so and Sar2k weighed 3400+ but we are talking 120rwhp difference so by you guys math Steve should be running 125mph or so but he only runs 118mph. With a M6 that is geared correctly you can tell alot by the mph but with an auto it's a little different b/c we are trying to ET not MPH. An M6 will always trap higher than it can actually ET unless it is a clutchless Lenco but not no GM T56. I am thru with this topic just bring your cars down for the next Thunder Shootout and you will see where the HP lies.

 

Seems like just yesterday this post was only one page long,,,, oh wait,,,, that was yesterday..

C'mon guys, let it rest. I'm sure once the bugs are worked out of Joe's cammed car, it'll run harder. Until then, just sit back and relax. It is an Automatic, maybe he's getting slippage in the top gears. Haven't you guys ever gone to the track and been disapointed with the results because of something not quite right? Slipping clutch, bad track prep etc..? One time at the strip doesn't really say what the car is really capable of.

BTW guys, Chris Benight's Z28 was running mid 11's @ 119ish 3 or 4 years ago with a cc306 and ported LT4's, for those that were around here back then. I believe he was pushing 410rwhp through an M6 if memory serves.

Mike

 

Really, i am SOOOOO happy a car with fully worked heads can run a few tenths and 1 mph faster than me. I would surely hope so.

 

You know it seems to me that their is a concept that HP and ET are some sort of linear equation. With that logic top fuel cars would be finishing the quarter before they started. The problem is nobody but the driver would know he made a run because in the resulting time warp the crowd would all have grown old and died. But the real question is if the driver had his headlights on would he have been able to see them?

 

For gods sake STOP talking about the ET. No one is saying anything bad about that. You can run a 11.6 at 117 fine and dandy. You dont run a 117 trap with a 420 hurse car.

Any idiot knows ET is based as much on chassis and traction as it is power.

 

Did you guys ever stop to think that maybe the problem is with the driver and not the cam and heads combo?

I put out 378rwhp & 390lb.ft of torque running rich.

I ran 13.0@108mph (13.1@110mph on a Gtech) doing a burnout down the track 2 yrs ago lol.

Since then I've improved my 1/4 mile times getting them down to 11.82@115mph on a G-tech. Nothing has changed in the motor. I've just become a better driver.

I'm sure if I went to the track this year I'd do even better.

There are too many factors that affect 1/4 mile times. XXX RWHP is not going to = XX.XX@XXXmph

'03 Cobras put out 370rwhp but only run 12.8@112mph.

Also the faster you go, the more hp it takes to make a difference in your ET.

If you already go 120mph, adding 300hp is NOT going to give you a 150mph trap.

 

Just trying to put a little humor into an already tired thread. And BTW it's your fault that I'm now running the GM847 cam.

 

My fault, im in automatic you disagree with me i argue mode

How you like that cam?

 

where does it say you CANT trap 117 with 420hp? what basis other then dyno racing are you using? i guess set up and tune,track prep and weather have no affect on mph?
show me the NHRA/IHRA correction factor for a certain HP mandates a certain mph.

Oh,and 2muchpsi,the dyno we used was perfectly fine,we just do a baseline tune on the dyno and dial it in at the track for varying weather condition's. We use Second Street Speed's (same shop that does all of Baxters work,and set up Injuneer's car) it is a Dynojet and it will read higher then a mustang or other brake type dyno's.

 

Makes good power and I was surprised at the driveability, brakes are fine, and my idle is acceptable. I'm currently running it on a tune meant for a CC305 slow it's slightly rich, like enough to make my eyes water when I stand behind my car. Lots of potential and I'll know for sure in a couple of weeks at the Georgia F-body shootout up in Reynolds.

PS. Of course I just bought a stroker block today.

 

That was the post of the day. If my sig wasn't so big it would become a quote in there.

 

You didn't know tha 420hurses always equals 120mph! It must be the extra hurses that do it in any weight,gear tranny even in an Impala SS if you have 420hurses it should run 120mph according to Altajars calculator.