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cam/head stock bottom A4 runs 11.63 on drag radials

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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 11:09 AM
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all over cam specs ..

hey saint figure my problem out on my combo in my sig..I mean cant compare it to anyone can you?? and alas I have never been on a dyno but once and that was a lost cause...keep watching the boards it was only first outing with car expect things to change..oh and me deleting the first post I surely dont want to rag on that 355 yet until you post up your dyno/times..
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by xxsaint69x
says the guy thats sig list bulbs and consol swaps and other pointless ****

Bug Eyed 95 Z28:::K&N CAI, 52mm TB, 160 Thermo, TB Bypass, 8mm Plug Wires, !Leaky Intake, !Leaky Front Cover, 97+ Console Swap, Performance Button, Nokya Stage II Bulbs, Xplode head/Amp/Sp (Stop Laughing its cheap and better than stock!) COMING SOON: MadZ28 PCM, 17x9.5 ZR-1's, Flux Capacitor.

At least he probably is aware that a Dynojet consistantly gives higher HP numbers than others....unlike yourself!
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 11:35 AM
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Those are some nice times Joe. Its simple to see that the car isnt complete yet. And they et's will drop even further.

Its easy for these punk's to sit here and run their mouth. When they havent even brought their cars in lower et's then the car your speaking of. Let alone your LT1 T/A which broke records. The min they see your name in a post, they cross their arms, and put a little smirk on their face. And they hover over the "B" and "S" key.

I bet their cars were not in the sothern shootout last year. And if they were there, maybe they would of shown some fn respect.


Good luck with your T/A this year, Im just surprised I havent seen your car in GM High Tech Mag.

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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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A simple gear swap wont gain you 3 mph. Its not like they dont have gears already, they all have some kind gears other then 3.42s and 3.23s.
Just to give you a real world example of what gears and tires can do to your quarter mile times. I ran an 11.44@118mph with a 1.579 60ft with 4.11's and a 26" tall tire. I changed my gears from 4.11's to 3.70's and a 28" tall tire to run the spray and only went an 11.92@114.98 wit ha 1.75 60ft. I did not spin on either pass. I lost a little over 3 mph and almost a half second from a gear and tire change. The only reason for the gear change and tire change was so that I did not run out of gear on the bottle. I will be dynoing this sat for the first time so I should have some numbers to compare to as well but mine will be low due to a non lockup converter with a high stall.

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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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do i sense some jealousy, lmao!!!!
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by Nostang 96z
Just to give you a real world example of what gears and tires can do to your quarter mile times. I ran an 11.44@118mph with a 1.579 60ft with 4.11's and a 26" tall tire. I changed my gears from 4.11's to 3.70's and a 28" tall tire to run the spray and only went an 11.92@114.98 wit ha 1.75 60ft. I did not spin on either pass.
Great point!! I have a real world example of the same. I was running 3.23s/A4/ST3500 and went 12.6s, changed to 3.73s, only change mind you and went 12.3s.

Now add all the other stuff I have done and went 12.0s in better air. Then put on 28s and went 12.3s and the same MPH. The right tire and gear make all the difference.

Who knows, the car may not be one that sees alot of strip time so why run more RPMs than needed just for ET/MPH? I like 1320 racing so I want to get the best combo together and I am still working on it. To me everything is a work in progress so seeing a H/Joe Cam in the 11s N/A is cool with me knowing it will do much better if that is what the owner decides!!
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by xxsaint69x
says the guy thats sig list bulbs and consol swaps and other pointless ****

Bug Eyed 95 Z28:::K&N CAI, 52mm TB, 160 Thermo, TB Bypass, 8mm Plug Wires, !Leaky Intake, !Leaky Front Cover, 97+ Console Swap, Performance Button, Nokya Stage II Bulbs, Xplode head/Amp/Sp (Stop Laughing its cheap and better than stock!) COMING SOON: MadZ28 PCM, 17x9.5 ZR-1's, Flux Capacitor.
Now I'm gonna *sob* feel bad *sniff*




EDIT: Seriously though, no insult about your rig intended. I think (not that you may care about now) it's a fine Camaro. It's just my long winded way of proclaiming that perhaps thou "doth protest too much." No more teasing from me

EDIT EDIT: Oh yeah, one more thing. My bulbs ARE TEH SHIZZLE!!

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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 01:02 PM
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I went 12.9@108 w/a 3933lb Rw, 4.11's, 26" tire and it dynoe 309/354 @150K miles.. Blah blah went 12.73@108.67 w/ 3.42's and a drag radial, @ 3560lbs... Great time's james'/joe.. 12.7 is just sorry for a cam'd car IMHO.. Take that out of your sig.. i'd be embarrased.. oh damn.. now i am just like you.. stop the bickering, its getting old..

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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 01:04 PM
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Well figure this Altajar, Saints and all you other non believers. My car with 3.42 gears ran 11.60's@117mph with one of Joes cams the very first trip to the track so put some 3.42's in you guys car and see how slow they go. If you guys cars were fast I could see you'll talking smack but neither of you guys are as fast as the car Joe is talking about so untill you can at least get out of the 12's regularly be quiet. Altajar I hate to tell you but 11.98 and 11.99 is still a 12sec car 9 out of 10 times You get lucky one pass and you have a solid 11sec car right. You guys need to grow up. Dynos main use is to tune and find out where you are making your HP and torque not as a MPH calculator. Later
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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I can't believe all the crap you guys are starting about this. This is really incredible. This is just unbelievable. When's the last time anyone heard of a head/cam car going 11.6 with drag radials on a 1.6 short time?? I mean really. Face it, whether you like it or not, that car runs, and Joe's work is backing it up. Cut him some slack at least. It was the drivers first time at the track with the new setup, and there's always some dialing in to do. I could easily see that thing adding a few MPH and shaving a few tenths off when it's all said and done.

Why are you guys being such freaking keyboard critics????? Can't you see a bigger point, that there are guys like Joe working on things that are able to maximize the potential that's still left in these motors, which your off the shelf grind cams aren't doing?? Thanks to your narrow mindedness, you've driven a person whom I think is one of the best to not do cam setups anymore. Thanks.
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 01:42 PM
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Joe, i'm not knocking you but your not doing anything better than anyone else. the guys that have your tuning cam and heads need to look around because they have guys doing this stuff with less rwhp#'s and smaller cams like the hot cam. some people just can't get it right but this is not that hard. Look at ken95z28 look at the #'s he ran with the hotcam and look at the #'s he is running now. What about frank 95z? me personally i'm sure your wondering what i have well the wives not mine has run 11.87@113 with a 1.57 on Nitto's and competely stock sup. weighing 3560 and stock heads through a 4L60E 2800 stall and that little bitty 210-224. like i said no disrepect joe but the people that praise you need to look around OPEN THEIR EYES.
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 01:56 PM
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94guy look at your 60' and mine and I still ran over 2 tenths quicker and 4more mph that is where the hp is. Cams are not everything but they help make power period.
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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4 mph over me is roughly 40 rwhp what did your car dyno? mine make 320. i have stock heads. so where are you making in the heads are the cam?
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 02:17 PM
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I haven't dynoed but my car has alot more than 117mph in it. You talk about rwhp Franks car made 330rwhp and he runs 11.40@116mph then Sar2k made 450rwhp and ran 11.40's@117mph on the same day Frank ran 11.50's@115mph thats a 120rwhp difference and the et's are almost the same? so it really doesn't have much to do with dyno #'s but my example was your car ran 113mph and my car ran 117mph first time at the track spinning in the 60'. Stick some ET streets on your car and you will lose some mph I can tell you that much. I am still running 3.42's so there is also some mph in the gearing but I won't change b/c my goal is to run 128-130mph on a 200shot then that will be another story but it will happen very soon. Ken's95 isn't running but 11.60's @117mph and with very good track conditions he ran some 11.40's@117mph in La, and he dynoed 384rwhp so what does that mean? Every dyno will be a little different so comparing dyno#'s means zero and comparing trap speeds between auto's doesn't mean too much either b/c converters eat HP but the final ET is what counts b/c thats who wins. So my car had some 11.40's with some better traction but now it will run 11.20's with a new setup. Later Clint
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by T/A lt1
Well figure this Altajar, Saints and all you other non believers. My car with 3.42 gears ran 11.60's@117mph with one of Joes cams the very first trip to the track so put some 3.42's in you guys car and see how slow they go. If you guys cars were fast I could see you'll talking smack but neither of you guys are as fast as the car Joe is talking about so untill you can at least get out of the 12's regularly be quiet. Altajar I hate to tell you but 11.98 and 11.99 is still a 12sec car 9 out of 10 times You get lucky one pass and you have a solid 11sec car right. You guys need to grow up. Dynos main use is to tune and find out where you are making your HP and torque not as a MPH calculator. Later
I dont under stand why my car keeps getting brought up. My MPH/weight/power all line up just fine. Is my car a 11 sec car everytime down the track? Surely not. Then again it gets 25+ mpg on the highway, is my everyday driver and gets me where i need to be everyday. If i can run (9) 12.0s and then a high 11.9 on stock heads out of every 10 passes, im doing better than most.



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