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Do not use bore to gain displacment, the displacement gains will be so minimal and the thin spots in the cylinders really not worth it, plus if anything should happen and it need refreshing there will be nothing left to hone and it would be time for a new block with new clearancing. I know a couple of LT1 Impala guys have gotten 408.xx so they can call it a 409(think old muscle cart era) even as cool as that sounds in a car like that and the guys spending BIG money on engines only a couple of those have been done because all it is good for is bragging rights, think they even had to check a few blocks just to find enough meat to bore. A lot of guys looking to make real power even stay away from 396s because those can place the rings so high in the piston that if you have problems with a power adder you are nearly assured of breaking a ring landing.
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Originally Posted by '94 Red Dragon
What the most you can bore on a LT1 block
whats the biggest stroke you can go with
I want a ton of comp.
please help
whats the biggest stroke you can go with
I want a ton of comp.
please help
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Originally Posted by '94 Red Dragon
What the most you can bore on a LT1 block
whats the biggest stroke you can go with
I want a ton of comp.
please help
whats the biggest stroke you can go with
I want a ton of comp.
please help
There's at least one individual who used to post here who did two different versions of a "421" cubic inch engine on the LT1 block.... one with a 4.030" bore on a 4.125" stroke, and one with a 4.090" bore on a 4.00" stroke. To get to the 4.090" bore, he used a hand selected block, did a sonic check on all the cylinder walls, and recentered the bores to maximize the thickness on the thrust side.
There is another individual who posts here that has done a "427" with a sleeved 4.120" bore and a 4.00" stroke.
A shop used to sell (and others may still sell) "409" (4.030" bore x 4.00" stroke) short and long block packages
All of those combos require a high level of expertise, and extensive effort at clearancing. Not for a limited budget or the mechanically challenged.
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I've seen Lingenfelter reciepes for a 409 with a .100 over bore on a LT1 before. But dont base your build off how much you think you can overbore something. Thats a reciepe for nothing but disaster.
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Do you understand how much money you'll have to spend on the top end to feed air to a 409 cubic inch motor properly? You need to plan a combo out, not just start buying parts. If you've already done so, disregard.
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Originally Posted by '94 Red Dragon
Ok thanks
does anyone know where i can buy a LT1 409 shortblock.
Is a 4.00 and 4.125 stroke considered to be a BBC crank
does anyone know where i can buy a LT1 409 shortblock.
Is a 4.00 and 4.125 stroke considered to be a BBC crank
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Callies offers a 4.000" Racemaster and a 4.000" Dragonslayer for the LT1.
As for bore size, I never got larger than 4.030 without checking the block. To be honest I have only ever done two at .060 over and the performance numbers weren't enough for me to consider the idea again. A 383 can be made to be pretty damn mean and still keep a lot of integrity in the block.
Both are non-stocking parts and pricey, but if this is your goal I would reccomend either of those crankshafts.
What are your power/performance goals for this package? Are you after cubic inch just for the sake of having it or do you have a certain goal in mind?
As for bore size, I never got larger than 4.030 without checking the block. To be honest I have only ever done two at .060 over and the performance numbers weren't enough for me to consider the idea again. A 383 can be made to be pretty damn mean and still keep a lot of integrity in the block.
Both are non-stocking parts and pricey, but if this is your goal I would reccomend either of those crankshafts.
What are your power/performance goals for this package? Are you after cubic inch just for the sake of having it or do you have a certain goal in mind?
Last edited by Victory Racing; Aug 7, 2005 at 11:33 PM.
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Nick:
There's a guy that posts as "airflowdevelop" who claims he routinely builds 427ci LT1's with 4.120" bores on unsleeved LT1 blocks. Made the claim on the Advanced Tech forum, when a couple of us claimed anything over 4.060" was a crap shoot. Yet he claims he sells them all the time to people in the middle-east.
Might want to check this thread - his posts are near the end (Page 2):
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...ighlight=Saudi
There's a guy that posts as "airflowdevelop" who claims he routinely builds 427ci LT1's with 4.120" bores on unsleeved LT1 blocks. Made the claim on the Advanced Tech forum, when a couple of us claimed anything over 4.060" was a crap shoot. Yet he claims he sells them all the time to people in the middle-east.
Might want to check this thread - his posts are near the end (Page 2):
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...ighlight=Saudi
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Originally Posted by '94 Red Dragon
Where can I find a SBC 4.125 stroke crank
I need a lot of cubic inches
I need a lot of cubic inches


