bigger throttle body?
Re: bigger throttle body?
I mostly want to upgrade to a 58mm from my 52mm for the snappier throttle response.
With bigger throttle blades/bores, it takes less pedal to allow a given amount of air to flow through, providing a "touchier" gas pedal.
With bigger throttle blades/bores, it takes less pedal to allow a given amount of air to flow through, providing a "touchier" gas pedal.
Re: bigger throttle body?
Originally Posted by Tonedef
Originally Posted by Jeremy_30th
I'm going to go with a 58mm Holley but BBK also sells them.
I'm going to go with a 58mm Holley but BBK also sells them.
Originally Posted by Tonedef
Edelbrock also makes them
Re: bigger throttle body?
If you do a little math, things don't look so good for the stock 48mm throttle body.
Just to give you an example. Let's take a 350 ci motor turning 6500 rpm. We'll assume 85% VE.
350x6500x.85/3456 = 560 cfm
You can calculate air speed (feet/sec) through a given section area pretty easily.
cfm/area x 2.4 or (1/60÷1/144)
Each throttle bore covers half the engine demand so (580/2 = 280)
280/2.81 x 2.4 = 239 fps
General rule of thumb states that anything over 240 fps will cost you power so you might assume we're safe?
What about the throttle shaft?
If the shaft is 5/16" in diameter, then our new section area is 2.22 in^2
280/2.22 x 2.4 = 303 fps
Take the stock LS1 75mm in comparison, calculate area minus the shaft (5/16"??) and you get this
553/5.928 x 2.4 = 224 fps
Not hard to see that you could see some gains in going 52-58 or even monoblade with better heads/cam/exhaust, better VE and higher rpm.
-Mindgame
Just to give you an example. Let's take a 350 ci motor turning 6500 rpm. We'll assume 85% VE.
350x6500x.85/3456 = 560 cfm
You can calculate air speed (feet/sec) through a given section area pretty easily.
cfm/area x 2.4 or (1/60÷1/144)
Each throttle bore covers half the engine demand so (580/2 = 280)
280/2.81 x 2.4 = 239 fps
General rule of thumb states that anything over 240 fps will cost you power so you might assume we're safe?
What about the throttle shaft?
If the shaft is 5/16" in diameter, then our new section area is 2.22 in^2
280/2.22 x 2.4 = 303 fps
Take the stock LS1 75mm in comparison, calculate area minus the shaft (5/16"??) and you get this
553/5.928 x 2.4 = 224 fps
Not hard to see that you could see some gains in going 52-58 or even monoblade with better heads/cam/exhaust, better VE and higher rpm.
-Mindgame
Re: bigger throttle body?
Originally Posted by Mindgame
Each throttle bore covers half the engine demand so (580/2 = 280)
-Mindgame
Yep, that's because I had 560 in the head (from our previous equation) and just hit the wrong key.
So it all works out in the end.
Thanks for keeping me on my toes... I went through this pretty quick so feel free to bring any errors to my attention.
-Mindgame
So it all works out in the end.
Thanks for keeping me on my toes... I went through this pretty quick so feel free to bring any errors to my attention.
-Mindgame
Re: bigger throttle body?
Originally Posted by Beyonce Knowles
I know there are some "companies" on ebay that will port it out and replace the blades, but I hear alot of people are unhappy with them because the blades stick open and you get a horrible idle.
I just wanted to point out that not all are this way.
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