Avoid Canton Race Products At All Costs!!!!
QUOTE]Originally posted by arnie
Pan w/revised (assisted in no small part by NN of Nutek) changes, (strg. rack, inward sensor attaching provision, and by using a different base core, better fit/more clearance for dipstick tube) is #15-24(2)T. Personally I can not vouch for degree of success Canton achieved, in alleviating the problem of a lack of sufficient clearance around the dipstick tube. IOW, don't know if problem was fixed, or just IMPROVED over the 15-244T, which is still available. They now have one additional pan (242). This (new) pan has been available for some time.
The changes in the revised pan (242) were NOT incorporated in the 244 pan. Why, don't know. Maybe, cuz people are willing to multilate the dipstick tube in lieu of complaining to Canton regarding their **** poor engineering surrounding the clearance problem. That would also explain why my attempts at getting Canton's attention to correct the problem fell on deaf ears. High priced pan that doesn't fit like it was intended. What a joke!!
Also, can just relay what Canton told me. SIX (6) quarts WITH filter. No, didn't verify if that was with a one (1) qt. filter. My oversite.
Also, it is a myth that having more oil in the pan will lower the oil operating temp. What it does do, is take longer for the oil to get up to a stabilized temp. [/QUOTE]
Pan w/revised (assisted in no small part by NN of Nutek) changes, (strg. rack, inward sensor attaching provision, and by using a different base core, better fit/more clearance for dipstick tube) is #15-24(2)T. Personally I can not vouch for degree of success Canton achieved, in alleviating the problem of a lack of sufficient clearance around the dipstick tube. IOW, don't know if problem was fixed, or just IMPROVED over the 15-244T, which is still available. They now have one additional pan (242). This (new) pan has been available for some time.
The changes in the revised pan (242) were NOT incorporated in the 244 pan. Why, don't know. Maybe, cuz people are willing to multilate the dipstick tube in lieu of complaining to Canton regarding their **** poor engineering surrounding the clearance problem. That would also explain why my attempts at getting Canton's attention to correct the problem fell on deaf ears. High priced pan that doesn't fit like it was intended. What a joke!!
Also, can just relay what Canton told me. SIX (6) quarts WITH filter. No, didn't verify if that was with a one (1) qt. filter. My oversite.
Also, it is a myth that having more oil in the pan will lower the oil operating temp. What it does do, is take longer for the oil to get up to a stabilized temp. [/QUOTE]
I didn't want to get a moroso pan because they do not have a place for the low oil sensor. Seemed like Canton was the only real option.
I bought a "new style" canton pan that was clearanced for a 383 from Nutek a few months ago. The damn thing leaked almost a half a quart of oil over night. The welds were crappy.
No one should be expected to band-aid up a brand new $350 oil pan with liquid weld. Nick at Nutek agreed. Even though CANTON was backordered, and wouldn't be able to take care of it for at least a month.... Nick did some searching and went out of his way to make one magically apear for me 2 days later.
I bought a "new style" canton pan that was clearanced for a 383 from Nutek a few months ago. The damn thing leaked almost a half a quart of oil over night. The welds were crappy.
No one should be expected to band-aid up a brand new $350 oil pan with liquid weld. Nick at Nutek agreed. Even though CANTON was backordered, and wouldn't be able to take care of it for at least a month.... Nick did some searching and went out of his way to make one magically apear for me 2 days later.
Last edited by Teek; Jun 14, 2003 at 11:50 AM.
A service advisor at my local Chevy dealership had a pan shoot a blast into his face... blisters everywhere
no date for a while... don't weld on a dirty pan... or clean it, blast it with flames to burn off the chemicals... dangerous.
no date for a while... don't weld on a dirty pan... or clean it, blast it with flames to burn off the chemicals... dangerous.
Thanks for the info Ted, seems I am not the only one who has had bad dealings with these. I did drop the link to this thread on Thor at Canton. Maybe he will see how poorly his product is perfoming and step up to the plate, but for some reason I doubt it.
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Pan was done while motor was still on the stand. Plus it isnt in the dipstick tube or the pan gasket, it is the actual welds. I mean come on, asking if a shop installed a oil pan right is like asking if you can install a cam right. Retorical question
Anyway, yes, it is installed right, it is crappy welds that are to blame.
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Anyway, yes, it is installed right, it is crappy welds that are to blame.Q
Figured I could pop up and give you all a update. I recieved a phone call from Thor today. First he stated that he never said he would call back. I wish I would have saved the voice mail. Second he went on to explain that their pans are leaked tested 3 seperate times. Just wondered if any of you knew that
Claims I can take off my pan at my expense and send it to him so he can verify it is leaking if I wanted to. Even then he wont guaratnee that it will be covered, as I may have jacked it up by the oil pan or it may have been damaged in shipping. I have never seen a lack of customer service as bad as this. Basically I was treated like I was lying. When I confronted the Thunder God about all the other pans that our members have that are leaking, he claims he has never heard from any of you, so "he cant verify it." So here is what I propose to those of you who are having a problem. CALL THE USLESS PIECE OF DUNG, and let him know you are having a problem. It is soemthing he cant ignore if you make a little noise and show him that his product is inferior and does not meet the standards to which they claim it does. Just as you have to write your congressmen to get a bill passed, I suggest you call Canton and let THOR know that his product sucks!!!
Make some noise my friends, it is the only way things get fixed.
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Claims I can take off my pan at my expense and send it to him so he can verify it is leaking if I wanted to. Even then he wont guaratnee that it will be covered, as I may have jacked it up by the oil pan or it may have been damaged in shipping. I have never seen a lack of customer service as bad as this. Basically I was treated like I was lying. When I confronted the Thunder God about all the other pans that our members have that are leaking, he claims he has never heard from any of you, so "he cant verify it." So here is what I propose to those of you who are having a problem. CALL THE USLESS PIECE OF DUNG, and let him know you are having a problem. It is soemthing he cant ignore if you make a little noise and show him that his product is inferior and does not meet the standards to which they claim it does. Just as you have to write your congressmen to get a bill passed, I suggest you call Canton and let THOR know that his product sucks!!! Make some noise my friends, it is the only way things get fixed.
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Originally posted by 97 RedSS
I have the new pan from Nutek and no leaks at all here..Fitment was a little tough but it works just fine..
Cody
I have the new pan from Nutek and no leaks at all here..Fitment was a little tough but it works just fine..
Cody
seems to me canton would not have come out with this redisigned version if the old one had no problems. mine leaks, the oil sensor is useless with hooker lt's, and the oil dipstick indention is not enough to alow the dipstick tube to go in.
That's horrible. I guess I have to find a new pan to get for my new motor
About the JB weld, I did that to the oil pan on my Daytona and it sealed the hole up fine. No more leak. granted, it wasn't a leak @ the welds, but it did work.
I agree you shouldn't have to jb weld a new $350 pan as well, but if you can't yank it and get another one blah blah then you may as well try the jb weld. Good luck
About the JB weld, I did that to the oil pan on my Daytona and it sealed the hole up fine. No more leak. granted, it wasn't a leak @ the welds, but it did work.
I agree you shouldn't have to jb weld a new $350 pan as well, but if you can't yank it and get another one blah blah then you may as well try the jb weld. Good luck


