Don't take this the wrong way, but if you don't know what you are talking about, don't speak. I have 2 buddies with 01 zo6's and both trap around 112 or less. With my 306 it would have been a good race and with the 305 and still the 306 tuning i am just barely slower. And guess what? I don't have heads, LT's or gears.

One more thing. Highlander, I have said this in the past and i'll say it again. Your car must run horrible and your dyno numbers back that up. If you can't beat a nearly stock zo6 you have some massive problems.

 

Watch the video clip of 97bowtie running close with a stock 01' ZO6. He is lucky to be making 340rwhp, so I think a 500rwhp fbody would *** rape one. Most 400rwhp fbodies can trap 116-118mph depending on gearing. Your hp should put you at 125-130mph traps! Your pops vette should be far from that. Most 01's dyno between 330-350rwhp. Add headers and CAI and he might see 20rwhp combined. The only thing I can think of is that you way 4200lbs race weight or something ridiculous like that.

 

"493rwhp"

So you must have dynoed to get that number...... how is it you're injectors are now too small?

I belong to a local C5 club (I own a 2000) and most of the Z06 owners run mid to low 12's. Some of the newer cars are touching the 11's with drag radials, lid and exhaust... but you have to be a good driver to get there. My C5 was turning ~12.8 stock and would have run with alot of the Z06 guys in our club stock for stock. Again, alot of it comes down to the driver.

-Mindgame

 

down here z06s are pulling 12.1s 12.2s. but your tellinn me that a 375 hp car with worse drag coeffiecent and heavier, will pull a 405 hp car that weighs less, it all about driving. and down here there arent any 375 hp Zs around here pulling pulling very low 12.1s. you said your buddys are running 112. thats good and all and lest say you run 112 also but when there 2 or 3 tenths ahead of you, YOU STILL LOOSE.

the only way i can look at this is from what i see down here. i see something totally different.

and i will speak my opinion any time i feel like it. its alll about driving.

if he can pull a Z06 in my opinion hes a good driver. maybe you are to. i dont know.

 

Man....there a lot of dumb people out there.

Looking at peak hp numbers and the numbers that factory say a car have is great fun but in reality it tells you nothing.

Mindgame: if you don't mind, I woul like to hear what you have done to your car. Also, 500 rwhp is 500 rwhp whether you need bigger injectors or not, you should have no prob. with a bolt on zo6.

 

Some of you guys are comparing flywheel HP to rear wheel HP. ZO6's are 405 flywheel HP...at least that's what they are rated at. They are dynoing 365-370 rear wheel hp, which is right there with the above dude's 375 rwhp car. A 200 lb weight difference is significant, but driver skill/launch, 60ft time can make such an advantage totally irrelevant.

 

Yeah dude, but.... we are not talking about 1/4 mile, we are talking about 80-140 mph... rwhp on a supercharged car is very peaky and if you cant rev where your combo is set up its like giving it some advantage.. I do agree that is still surprising... but.. it is!!! I dont know.. it just accelerates like a mad man all the way to 170mph...

 

racing a Z06 from 80mph up tells everyone what?...

a RACE is from nothing..maybe a roll... to whenever you both decide to let off. its seems like the differences in gearing and trannies(if one is a 6 spd and the other is an auto...never said) would not give the best representation of both cars actual abilities. its much like the LT1 vs LS1 debate where a lot of guys say they can get an LS1 off the line and if they are lucky he wont catch them in the last 1/16th mile but he WILL eventually catch up. so if they were both to run from 80-120mph then the LS1 would make an LT1 look likes its a honda civic. the point im trying to make is if an LT1 is making 500rwhp then a nearly Z06..even bolt-on car should not stand a chance. that is just how i see it.

 

That is how I saw it till I reaced him!!!

I have an M6.. when you race from 3rd at 80... i am at 4800... shift at 5400 and then drop to 4100 while he is still up top... when you get to 5th he will be in a better gear.. always.. with a better relation...

Honestly.. its tough!!! its really tough... I never thought it would be like that, but honestly it is...

The only car that has been a match its MINE!!!

 

Ok everyone here is some clarity for you. First time we raced was off a 30 roll and I was just dead even with him that was merging on the highway all the way up past 150mph cuz my speedo doesnt go past that I was dead even with him. Then bam out of the toll booth he got the hit first then I hit it and up until I shifted into third he was in front of me then through third I pulled like a car and a half and then the same in fourth when the race was over we were doing about 130mph and I was 3 or 4 in front of him. I dont mean to be cocky but I can drive well. To give you an idea the reason the race ended was because a car cut me off when I was at 130 mph and when I cut right it through the rear end out left then I went into a 540 spin across three lanes while avoiding the traffic and pulled out of it and got on the shoulder. No harm done to anything or anyone. My car has aluminum driveshaft and no spare no airbags no pw or pwdlocks and I only way 125lbs plus no ac and no egr. So my formula cant weigh that much. For all of you who are doubting I swear that this race occurred and that the outcome wasnt a lie I will get the car dynoed and be going to track and I will scan both of em. And for the ones sticking up for me thanks. I wish I had would have flowed my heads before I put em on cuz I think my friend and I did a damn good job. And if you are close to 500 hp even if its Flywheel horse there is no way in hell a stock 01 02 or 03 should be competition unless you are running through a robbing drivetrain like a th400 and a ford 9 and 400 lbs of sand in the back Oh and if noone believes the story ask around on LS1tech in the midwest forum and rpmws6 or Jstpsi will voudge for it

 

Well... I do have all my tools.. my car is full weight.. and I weight 190...

Weight is a big disadvantage.. as that car only weighs 3100.. without manifolds and cats.. take off some 50 pds... then it weighs 3050.. I am weighing around 3650 or so... so its 600 or so pounds.. added to that: you said you ended up in 4th at 130... yeah... its believable.. but... I am at 130 in 5th since I shift almost at 110 in 4th so there is my disadvantage... still... and like you said.. not to be cocky but I do drive pretty well... and I have raced him 2 times.. also my car was loosing boost, the other night it didn't and I was gaining.. sloooowwwwwwly.. but gaining.. im telling you guys...

MANY cars in the 11s come to race him to beat him.. and they all go home depressed... MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY!!!!!!!!!!! supras with big everything and 600rwhp... many many!!! its tough.. i have been the only one that has ever come near... so... its awesome... maybe its an angel car...

Secret?? the break in??? probably.!!!

 

Well with a 3.42 gear and 4th gear being a ratio of 1:1 with a 26" tire at 5500 rpms I would be at 126 mph since I shift at 5800 cuz stock rev limiter is still on. So I was at 130 at the toip of fourth getting ready to shift out when that happened there was probably about 2 mph of extra pull from the coast. What I mean is the car doesnt slow done right when you let off it will still climb a couple MPH so I was in or around 130. What did the ZO6 dyno at RWHP wise? Did he dyno it?

 

370rwhp with all the Active handling systems kicking in and a lot of brake smell... and all the service active handling ****... it wouldn't shut off completely, in extreeme circumstances it would still activate, so it did...

So it should be close to 400rwhp...

 

ok so 400 rwhp in a car that weighs lets say 3300 lbs with driver should trap at 113 and et 12.0 and you at 3600lbs with 490 should trap at 11.3 @ 120 so something is not right and physics and numbers dont lie I even did drag coefficient tests too and you should still take him by 6 cars

 

Well dont know it traps 118 I dont know how much I trap but I should be trapping around 120 when its all set and done... I trapped 112 with 425