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Old 03-02-2009, 07:29 AM
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ANOTHER head stud sealing question

Yes, I searched but my question is specific.

I have tried the following with dismal failure:

ARP Thread Sealant Time to failure: 1 hour.

Teflon tape Time to failure: 600 miles

Yes proper prep was performed including chasing threads and cleaning with solvent (block and studs) to remove excess oil.

I want a solution that can be had while the heads are still on.

I have heard mixed results on Permatex #2 so please make other suggestions. I have no problem going with silicone gasket making materials because sealing these are more of a priority than worrying about residual dried silicone upon stud removal someday. These heads will be removed someday but probably not for a few seasons.
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Well I only see two choices given the requirements. Put a can of stop leak in the system. YUK!! Or remove each stud, one at a time, and coat with sealent of your choice.
I know this isn't any help but I had NO problems with the "liquid Teflon" sealent that's recommended. Are you sure the water is coming from around the threads??
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Originally Posted by Z28SORR
Well I only see two choices given the requirements. Put a can of stop leak in the system. YUK!! Or remove each stud, one at a time, and coat with sealent of your choice.
I know this isn't any help but I had NO problems with the "liquid Teflon" sealent that's recommended. Are you sure the water is coming from around the threads??
I guess I should have stated that I have tried the stop leak shiite and it did some some of the leaks but not all.

Yes definitely around the threads it is leaking there is no doubt.
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You MUST drain some of the coolent from the block!!!!! Then use Permatex N 2BR on the CLEAN bolts and dry block holes. That should STOP your leak...
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When the block was machined did they use a tq. plate with studs instead of bolts? I ran head studs on my old set-up but got tired of the leaks. The only time I have seen non-leaking studs on an lt1 car is when they used studs on the tq. plate.
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Originally Posted by 94TEALz
When the block was machined did they use a tq. plate with studs instead of bolts? I ran head studs on my old set-up but got tired of the leaks. The only time I have seen non-leaking studs on an lt1 car is when they used studs on the tq. plate.
It was indicated on the build sheet they did.

I think I will just run that leak stop stuff permanently after I get this next round of Permatex 2 in. No other way to be safe as I can tell.
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http://www.permatex.com/products/Aut...ad_Sealant.htm



DO NOT USE PERMATEX #2 for sealing head bolts or studs....it is NOT a thread sealant.

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Also, an amazing sealer is Locktite 545 hydraulic sealer but I never used it on an engine head application - good stuff, though.
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When the block was machined did they use a tq. plate with studs instead of bolts? I ran head studs on my old set-up but got tired of the leaks. The only time I have seen non-leaking studs on an lt1 car is when they used studs on the tq. plate.
This doesn't make sense. A torque plate is used when boring & honing a cylinder. The block is decked referenced to the main bores regardless of bore distortion.

-Scott.
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Why would a stud need to be sealed differently than a bolt? Both are going into water passages.

Thanks,
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Originally Posted by ACE1252
http://www.permatex.com/products/Aut...ad_Sealant.htm



DO NOT USE PERMATEX #2 for sealing head bolts or studs....it is NOT a thread sealant.

Got it!
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Originally Posted by ACE1252
http://www.permatex.com/products/Aut...ad_Sealant.htm



DO NOT USE PERMATEX #2 for sealing head bolts or studs....it is NOT a thread sealant.
That's what I used on mine -- no problems at all
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There is only one thing to watch out for with the permatex. I once got a tube of that stuff that was really thin and watery. The contents of the tube should be a good consistency.......like a good hand lotion or hand cleaner. If it's really thin and watery, don't use it, get another tube.
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