its rich.
And I have been beaten by manuals. the only times i ever lost were against manuals. C4 on dope, WS6 and an SS.

And I am converting to a six speed.

and btw- stock cars are not propperly stalled.

 

My auto DOES NOT take anywahere near a whole second to shift, and all I have is a Hypertech. Where did they get those #'s from?

 

Funny, when I move the lever, as soon it hits the next gear it is there...

.8 seconds...now this thread is getting retarded. A horribly slipping, on it's way out A4 does not take that long.

 

Anyone ever hear of Power Shifting? You won't lose any RPM through M6 shifts. M6 is more fun to drive, and most Camaros out there are street cars. I'd go with the M6 unless you are at the strip like it's your job.

 

Misinformation given in the statement above. An M6 setup with the right clutch and more important than anything else "the right driver" can outdrive an auto or equally perform. The driver is the key.

 

morons

 

Seriously. I'm un-subbing to this thread so that I wont be tempted to read anymore.

 

A M6 will have to leave @ a higher RPM to get 60's of an A4 with a stall.

Take my A4 combo....let's see, I pull up to the line, take it to 2200 rpm and on the last yellow, I floor it. Cuts low 1.6 60's on BFG DR's on motor. Take your M6, take it to 2200 RPM and what 60' did you cut?

Once I get my combo worked out, I am looking for high 1.5 60's, still on the stock rear. Your gonna need a 12 bolt or a 9", a honking clutch, and a high RPM launch to get that making comparable power.

What I am curious about is, if it takes .80 seconds for a A4 to shift, and it only take .30 seconds for a M6 to shift, and the M6 car runs 13.8 and the A4 runs 14.0, then why are not guys going from A4's to M6's all of a sudden running mid 12's? I mean hell, #'s to #'s, the A4 car is wasting 1.5 seconds more than the M6 car, yet is only .2 seconds behind....???

 

WTF is YOUR point? So you drive a M6 using different rpms then an A4, it's called technique. All most people care about is the end result, not what rpm you launched at.

A slower shifitng car doesn't STOP dead, it stops accelerating but is still coasting towards the finish line moron.

Bench racing is so cool. This is a great thread.

Thank you Ashkan, that was hilarious. I feel like jumping out of this window but i'm afraid it won't kill me, just break my clutch leg and then i wouldn't be able to shift my car and stomp the a4 guys at the track this friday.

A4 makes it easy for amatures to be consistent and makes high HP cars easier to launch. leave it at that!

I just did everyone a great diservice for now having brought this thread to the top.

 

Let's see, been racing cars for almost 13 years and how long have you been racing?

Been down the 1/4 over 1500 times...watched countless drivers attempt to drive their stick shifts...but here, on the internet, everyone is John Force.

Had both many stick shift cars and auto's. The crap some of you believe is simply retarded. It is like some of you have never been to a race track. Never been in a fast A4 car. Never been in a fast manual car. Never look around either?

Gotta a bunch of guys in 13 seconds car telling people how awesome they are at driving and their "skillz".......

Big man calling people moron....f'n internet badass...."boy"

 

If you are talking faster in the 1/4 mile you are completely wrong.. More consistant with an auto in times?? Yes, but faster?? NO.

Why would you make those claims?? Wondering how you figured that out? Considering most manual cars trap a couple mph higher than autos, so any "loss" off the line (which should not be much if driven correctly) vs auto could easily be made up down the track.

 

we are talking about with a converter, bud.
regards,
trey

 

yes but your car stops "squatting" and lunges back foward, then you shift again and waste power throwing it back.

you are basing your arguement on a personal opinon and with that, unless I talking to 2mchpsi, i am done with this thread.

 

that thread reminds me of discussing with Linux users when faced with arguments, they go back to their original beliefs.

How comes everybody with a M6 always think they're good? I've never seen anybody say they're bad with a M6, they always have superior skills

I based my opinion on having had both in the same car with same mods; and I had some people with *mad skillz* drive my car when it was converted to a M6 (because, yes, I don't claim to be a good stick shift driver) and and they didn't reach what the A4 was doing either.

As far as the time it takes to shift, no matter how you look at it, a human can not beat a mechanism that is much stronger, faster and has less travel to do; but shifts don't even matter, the launch is what matters most in the 1/4

 

I have that setup, the 2800-3.73-w/ the 12 bolt, and I love it! I don't like the M6 as much, unless it is for street purposes only.

At the track, an A4 rules. Bottom line.

I only read like the first page of this thread, and I am not reading anymore, this is only for MHO.

I am cutting 1.5 60's w/ ET Streets, and stalling around 2000k and I LOVE it! I don't have to worry about smoking a clutch, and putting excessive pressure on the rear end.

Just like someone said, if it is for track use, go A4. If you are a big street racer, and want some fun, get the M6

Oh, and BTW, what I HATE hearing the most, AND I MEAN HATE, is when someone asks, "Is that a auto or stick?" And I say, "Auto"
They snear at me, and are like, "Too bad, the M6 is so much faster" and "You should've gotten the M6" or "An auto is so slow and boring"

I COULD like drop kick them in their ignorant mouth and scream to the top of my lungs! *breathing* I am ok, really I am