agreed

 

how do you explain this one?

A4: you're sitting at the start line, 0 mph; light comes up; you're instantly in the powerband and you never get out of it. And you have traction!

M6 : two scenarios: you start off the powerband (and loose bad on the 60ft) or you start in the powerband and loose traction (and loose bad on the 60ft as well). Or you can try to slip the clutch all along, hoping to do manually what an A4 really does with its torque converter.

Yes, once you hit 3rd, you'll be pulling much harder than the A4, but unless you're racing a real 1/4 (as opposed to a street light race), you can't catch up.

I can't even count how many time I have seen self-proclaimed good stick drivers get wasted by a A4 with a high stall. I've had A4 and M6 in the exact same car, I recognize the advantages of the M6, but off the line, compared to a built A4 it isn't even in the same ballpark.

 

well, my first f-body was a 96 T/A with an A4/3.23...my current one is a 95 T/A with an M6/3.42. My first impressin of this car was that it seemed much faster than my old 96. People are talking about being out of your powerband, well you are much more likely to be out of your powerband in an A4 than you are in an M6 where you can launch at any RPM you want. IMO I wouldn't go back to an A4. I agree that maybe people can't shift faster than the A4 does, but you can certainly shift fast enough to make the difference unnoticeable. I have never had anyone pull on me while I was shifting. The only bad thing about it is how hard it is on the rear end.

Tom3: in an M6 you can start off in the powerband just like an A4, but you also have the option of feathering the clutch to control wheelspin, something you can't do with an Automatic (you cannot control in any way the amount of slip in a TC). Lets face it, A4 or M6 if your in your powerband off the line, your going to spin on strret tires. The M6 just gives you another way to control it

IMO, learn to drive a stick properly and you will be happy with it.

 

I find it ironic that someone running 12.7@115 MPH, which is a very mis-matched time, is telling people about good driving skills.

And I don't know what type of auto's some of you guys have ran or have read about, but you have alot of control in an automatic.

 

Now this man knows his trannies. BTW I control wheel spin with the gas. Fact stands you wana go fast in the quater get and auto. You wana rip up some curves get a 6speed.
Shawn

 

how is it ironic? ITs not like i got a 2.6 60' I got a 2.25 on street tires. Some of us do not race on slicks at the track and prefer to dirve the car home istead of getting it towed (broken 10 bolt )

 

the advantage of a a4 is the consistansy and the posibly better sixty foot time. the 6 speed you can run what ever rpm you ned to be in the power curve. got news for, you a 6 speed is just as fast in the 1/4 as a a4. its all driver. but the fact is that if any one of the 2 is gooing ot miss a gear it the m6. its all about consistacy.

 

You would have had a 1.8 with an auto. Don't fight the truth man.
Just accept defeat and go on.
Shawn

 

Show me one A4 car with a high stall that can get a 1.8 60' with normal street tires making 350rwhp/344rwtq.

 

stock for stock can the 6 speed beat an a4....cause you guys argue this...and its like "oh my a4 beats a 6 speed with a 'so and so' stall converter" yeah but what about strait out of the factory?

so yeah youve got a stall converter in your a4....so if you get that...then the 6 speed gets a short shifter...no who wins...your talking about mismatched cars here...

how about you talk about strait out of the factory who wins...94 a4, or a 94 m6....they both were driven normally, have 10,000 miles, maintained nicely, and both drivers weigh approximately the same...who wins?

 

Yadda yadda, people do there own damage. Whats good for one may not be good for another? If 9 out of 10 people prefer pepsi and i like dr pepper does that make me wrong?
You run what you got go from there.

 

 

I have done several 1.8s on my dads 383 imp SS. 3000 stall, 373s, over 400rwhp. 255 street tires, not DRs. My car on the other hand takes heated ET streets to launch hard, but i have gone 1.7s many times.

 

Obviously all you, "Now I have to shift a lot!" people don't know how to drive old skool. T-56 w/4.10's and take off in second

 

the guy is still trying to find out who wins from factory, an m6 or an auto, everyone is giving their own opinions but no one has really answered the guy correctly...i personally don't know, but i like to find out.