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97 SLP LT4 runs better w/ Check Engine Light on??

Old Apr 17, 2008 | 05:27 PM
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97 SLP LT4 runs better w/ Check Engine Light on??

today i noticed my cars check engine light was on, i also noticed it seems to run better (more responsive)

i checked the codes and found out i didnt put gas cap on all the way - reset gas cap (but didnt reset code)

after abt 2-3 cool-down/warm up cycles the light turned off - and performance was back down to what i was used to

anyone have any thoughts on this??

1997 Camaro SLP LT4
E85 conversion
dyno tuned
Old Apr 17, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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What was the specific code you had when the SES light was on?
Old Apr 17, 2008 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Injuneer
What was the specific code you had when the SES light was on?
442
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1416 (i just deleted 1415 and 1416 via LT1_Edit)

if it matters this is a speed density tune w/ no MAF (pcm programmed for this)
Old Apr 17, 2008 | 07:13 PM
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Probably because the fans were always on. Makes the motor run cooler.
Old Apr 17, 2008 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by sandman63
Probably because the fans were always on. Makes the motor run cooler.
thats not it..cause i have a SLP fan override switch and tried that before
even when the car reached 175deg (where it normally runs at) it felt like it had more pull with the CEL on

maybe something abt being stuck in open loop?? thought the dyno tune would be better than preset non-feedback open loop????
Old Apr 17, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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You need some fine tuning to your tune..possibly running lean with the ses off.
Old Apr 17, 2008 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sam pace
You need some fine tuning to your tune..possibly running lean with the ses off.
does it run richer when the SES light is on? if so, how can i richen it up via LT1_Edit?
via VE or PE tables? or both? neither? something else?



i know E85 likes rich

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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 07:39 AM
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None of my lists show P0442 as a valid code for the 97.
Old Apr 18, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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What fuel pressure are you running with the E85?
Old Apr 18, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Injuneer
None of my lists show P0442 as a valid code for the 97.
according to my snap on MT2500:
P0442 Evaporative Emission Control System Leak Detected (small leak)

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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by T/A lt1
What fuel pressure are you running with the E85?
got a BG alky pump that is 200gph, 150psi
the regulator was set to 60psi during dyno tuning
Old Apr 18, 2008 | 09:40 AM
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i caused another 442 error - SES light came on.. and i raced my neighbors cobra 2 times - then i reseated gas cap - after 2-3 cooldown/warmup cycles the light went off and we re-raced 2 times

with the SES light on i had him by 1 1/2 car
with the SES light off i had him by abt 1/2 car (his front bumber even w/ my door mirror)

his car: 2004 cobra, dyno tuned, pulley, LT headers & catback, 445RWHP

(just to make sure i want mental when i thought car had more pull)
Old Apr 18, 2008 | 09:45 AM
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Maybe I need to set my SES light on. LOL But really it sounds like it's a fueling problem. With alcohol different temps require diffenret fueling requirements alot more than gasoline so your tune is must be off a little. So when the SES light comes on it goes rich, which helps out your fueling problem. I would have the car retuned at the dyno and add more fuel to see whats going on.
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