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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 11:09 AM
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Is a 600plus horsepower engine good enough 4??

Is a 600 plus horsepower engine good enough for the streets. I'm looking to build my lt1 engine next summer - Anybody think that would be plenty of power. I have a 94 camaro z28 m6 stock 10 bolt 4:10 gears all bolt ons only internal mod is the hot cam. I'm pushing around 310 rwhp. I just cannot imange what my car will feel like with 600+horsepower
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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that'll be more than enough to 1 drive on the street daily, 2 break you stock 10 bolt, and 3 probably break you trans without mods.. So I'd say 600+ is more than enought for a street car...Figure McLaren's come with 650HP in car that weighs 2500lbs. Figure it does 0-60 in 3.2 seconds, and runs 11's in the 1/4. Now figure your car weighs more, but does 0-60 in 2 seconds because you hook. That HP is good to get you from low 11's to mid 10's. Just to let you know

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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 11:25 AM
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Since when is a 10 second steet car enough LOL
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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and 3 probably break you trans without mods..
Somehow I doubt the trans will break unless he is very hard on it. The T56 is a stout tranny.
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 12:51 PM
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that'll be more than enough to 1 drive on the street daily, 2 break you stock 10 bolt, and 3 probably break you trans without mods.. So I'd say 600+ is more than enought for a street car...Figure McLaren's come with 650HP in car that weighs 2500lbs. Figure it does 0-60 in 3.2 seconds, and runs 11's in the 1/4. Now figure your car weighs more, but does 0-60 in 2 seconds because you hook. That HP is good to get you from low 11's to mid 10's. Just to let you know

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What things can you do to a T56 to resist it from being broken?
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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Yeah allot of people are telling me upgrade the trans and rearend. I'm going with a 12 bolt but the trans should be okay. Only thing I'm getting done is a racing clutch. There was a guy the other day that ran a low 10 et time and he's trans t-56 was stock - just had a racing clutch. So I think my trans would be okay. Man I tell you these car's are allot to fix up. The rearend, etc,etc. All the money I put into mine I could buy something done up that would more in likely out run mine. I know I cannot have the fastest car out there. I'm just looking to build something where hardly I could be beat. 600 horsepower should be enough. Theres a guy near my house he cruises the same streets and he had his 03 mach 1 dyno at 679 at the wheels and 730 tq. Thats a awesome car. The whole entire front end came off the ground crazy. Theres pictures of it at livernois motorsports. Then under costumer rides and theres two cars he's the 03 mach 1 babby blue color. Check it out. I'm trying to compete with that.
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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How do you plan on getting the 600hp? Is this at the wheels or FW?
And I'd say 600 is more than enough for the street, probably too much.
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 01:10 PM
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Good luck hooking that kind of power on the street. Yes, it can be done, but it will take a lot of work. Are you talking 600+ at the wheels?
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 01:12 PM
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No thats at the flywheel. A.P.E enernering by my house said they could build me up a 600hp engine. Honestly I thought that wasnt enough for the streets. Thats all at the flywheel. Theres allot of mean cars near me. That mach 1 I was telling you about on that website runs 9 in 1/4 with a 18psi turbo. Thing is so queit. My dodge neon stock - makes more noise then that thing. 600hp should be good thow??? Do you think I will be happy with that. I'm going to bolt on engine with the hot cam to a 600hp engine.I just hope that power throws you back into the seat.
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 01:19 PM
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No one knows what you will be happy with. You will love it to death I think.

I went from about 310 at the wheels to around 400(estimated and hasn't been tuned yet) and it felt good at first. But now, I have to get some more

Have you realized all the other things that go along with 600 hp? Fuel requirements, spark, engine management, drivetrain? All that stuff adds up quick when you start playing with that much hp.

It will definately be a force though.
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 01:28 PM
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Yeah thats how I am. First it's a couple bolt on's then etc,etc,etc. 600hp should be plenty. I know what having 600 horsepower comes with. It adds up. I know. right now I have about 310 rwhp. All these cobras coming out have 380 at the wheels bone stock. 600 hp should be good enough. That should easily get me into the 11's if not the 10's
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 02:14 PM
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If you have a budget, you pretty much hafta build the car in the way that makes you happy. Especially in this area, there are a lot of guys with fast cars and deep pockets. The only way you are gonna be on top is if you have either an endless amount of money or ability, or in most cases both. Build a car that puts a smile on your face every time you drive it.
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 03:19 PM
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Re: Is a 600plus horsepower engine good enough 4??

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No thats at the flywheel. A.P.E enernering by my house said they could build me up a 600hp engine. Honestly I thought that wasnt enough for the streets. Thats all at the flywheel. Theres allot of mean cars near me. That mach 1 I was telling you about on that website runs 9 in 1/4 with a 18psi turbo. Thing is so queit. My dodge neon stock - makes more noise then that thing. 600hp should be good thow??? Do you think I will be happy with that. I'm going to bolt on engine with the hot cam to a 600hp engine.I just hope that power throws you back into the seat.
Ok well its just a little more possible now, big difference between 600fw and rw. Is this engine APE is talking about N/A or is it FI? and is it even still an LT1 that will be put into your car with 600hp?
Old Nov 18, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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Re: Is a 600plus horsepower engine good enough 4??

There will always be someone faster. You need to decide what you building the car for to get the most satisfaction for the money. It sounds like you are building a car for street racing. Leaving a discussion of the wisdom of this activity aside, the key to a fast car are going to be weight reduction and the ability to hook up in addition to hp.

As far as hp goes, 600hp from an NA LT1 is a LOT of hp. I don't see it happening for less than a small fortune. Are you planning on N2O or a blower? The least expensive path would be a stout 450hp motor and a 150hp nitrous shot. But even that wouldn't be cheap.

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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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I agree with Rich. And just so you know Stock T-56's holding up to that power under consistant abuse are few and far between. The big things to do are syncros, shift forks, and the output shaft. But I would recommend getting a forged motor and just spray a respectable amount through it...it'll save you some money in the build.

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