96WS6 - You've got a vortech too

I've got the 4.10s and no regrets. I also slapped on some 2000 SS 10 spoke wheels with 285s on the rear... a lot more snap.

You might as well get an Eaton posi too. Check out Chrismans for some good rear info.

If you really want to upgrade, check out their ET street!!!!


Greg

 

I have 3.90's which i though would of been a good compromise. I loved them at first but now i wish i would of gone with 4.10's.

 

I started with 3.42,s and they were OK, then went to 3.73s loved them but broke the ring gear after a year, then went to 4.10s, I wish I had the 3.73s back.
Ron

 

4.11's make a cam'd car more livable on the street. 4.11's are also going to add more stress to an already on edge gear set and carrier. M6+4.11's+traction=broken rear

Personally, I don't know why everyone automatically recommends 4.11's right off the bat. I guess everyone just loves the "feel" but I'd base my decision on my car and needs.

If you're not looking to drag race then 4.11's seem to be the favorite for "feel". If you are looking to improve quarter mile times, choose a gear ratio that allows you to cross the finish line at the RPM you want in 4th gear.

I'm afraid with good weather and final tuning I'll be smacking the rev limit before crossing the line so I may need to step down to 3.73's. I really don't feel like reving the stock bottom end over 6500 RPM.

 

4.10s in mine.. A Daily Driver too... Only problem is staying out of it!

 

My car has 4.10s and I didnt even know it when I bought the car... gets good mileage and I love the holeshot

 

what are you 4.11 guys traping at? in the future i plan on running a cc 306 and possibly a 150 shot. i will be reving the motor to around 6300-6500 so would i need to shift out of 4th?

 

You know if half these guys would try something before they put it down all these camaros might be a lil faster. But hey what do i kno? I havent got any 1/4 times to post but look at the other 2 guys times (atljar, 95 bird) they moving on!! I never lost a street race. I ran 7.78@ 92 mph in the 8th.

 

On street tires it would be tough to break a 4.10. I'm on it VERY hard with grippy 285s that have been heat-cycled for autocrossing. You won't have any problems.

But it does depend on your application. I run HARD through the canyons and my suspension is set up for autocross. I really am not interested in drag-racing. Throw on some slicks and any hard launch would stress any rear gear set... with the taller being weaker.

 

There are people with M6's breaking ten bolts without even breaking 2 second 60' times! I just started drag racing this year, because I couldn't afford to before. I'm still on a very tight budget, so I never used any of my suspension nor do I even do a burnout. My ten-bolt after just a couple trips to the track over the summer has really loosened up. I'll be inspecting, readjusting, rebuilding it this winter but I have no doubt I'd break it with just a few more trips.

Of course canyon carving doesn't stress it anywhere near drag racing. All the stress happens from a stop, at the point when the slack is taken up and the parts see a huge impulse. A properly setup 12-bolt, without defects, is almost indestructible in comparison.

Street tires help immensely to protect the rear but with an M6 you can still create large impulses if you're rough and have a tight clutch. It certainly doesn't require slicks

Can't wait wait to afford road racing though

 

I'll race you. I would slaughter you with your 4.56's regardless of mods, you will run out of steam VERY early while I continue to fly by. If you are about to shift to fourth I will be hitting my powerband in third. If you are going to shift to third, I will be hitting my powerband in second. You may feel like you are pulling in the beginning but you will run out of steam real quick. 4.56's is ridiculous, it's the cheap way to "feel" fast but in reality your car is just revving up way quicker. Why do you think ALL real sports cars don't have crazy ratios, ferrari, porsche, lambo, viper, EVEN the corvette is not geared high and it's for a reason... IMO anything over 4.10's is not a feasible idea to me and even then, 4.10's is too much for a car with major power.

Atljar did it right and I can't knock his car because it is freaking tight, I'm sure he is passing the traps at like 6800 rpm in 4'th RIGHT NOW. In that case it's okay but once the trap speed goes up that gear ratio is going to start becoming a hinderance.

 

6200 crossing traps with 27" tire @115. With 27" tire 6900 rpms = 128mph. I still got some power to gain Im shifting at 6700 or so, in actuallity, i need bigger gears!
Although, as said before, the 4.33/4.56 gears arent for the stock cam people, you will actually be slower IMO. 4.10 is perfect choice for 94+ stock cam guys. Anything less and its going to bog on a hard launch. Once you get cam/heads that needs to rev, the bigger gears are the ones to have.

 

Thats a FAST hotcam time

 

So you are crossing the 1/4 in 5'th gear right? I will admit though for sure, a car with any cam bigger than cc305/hotcam needs gears to get off the line. I am experiencing that trouble right now but I don't want to put any money into this 10 bolt. When I go 12-bolt it will have 3.73's.

 

No thats 4th gear...

Full chart with 4.33/27" (which is a 26x11.5x16 ET street more or less) tire, 94+ t56

RPM 1st Gear 2nd Gear 3rd Gear 4th Gear 5th Gear 6th Gear
500 3 5 7 9 13 19
600 4 6 9 11 15 22
700 5 7 10 13 18 26
800 6 8 11 15 20 30
900 6 9 13 17 23 33
1000 7 10 14 19 25 37
1100 8 11 16 20 28 41
1200 8 13 17 22 30 45
1300 9 14 19 24 33 48
1400 10 15 20 26 35 52
1500 10 16 21 28 38 56
1600 11 17 23 30 40 59
1700 12 18 24 32 43 63
1800 13 19 26 33 45 67
1900 13 20 27 35 48 70
2000 14 21 29 37 50 74
2100 15 22 30 39 53 78
2200 15 23 31 41 55 82
2300 16 24 33 43 58 85
2400 17 25 34 45 60 89
2500 17 26 36 46 63 93
2600 18 27 37 48 65 96
2700 19 28 39 50 68 100
2800 20 29 40 52 70 104
2900 20 30 41 54 73 108
3000 21 31 43 56 75 111
3100 22 32 44 58 78 115
3200 22 33 46 59 80 119
3300 23 34 47 61 83 122
3400 24 35 49 63 85 126
3500 24 36 50 65 88 130
3600 25 38 51 67 90 134
3700 26 39 53 69 93 137
3800 27 40 54 70 95 141
3900 27 41 56 72 98 145
4000 28 42 57 74 100 148
4100 29 43 59 76 103 152
4200 29 44 60 78 105 156
4300 30 45 61 80 108 160
4400 31 46 63 82 110 163
4500 31 47 64 83 113 167
4600 32 48 66 85 115 171
4700 33 49 67 87 118 174
4800 33 50 68 89 120 178
4900 34 51 70 91 123 182
5000 35 52 71 93 125 186
5100 36 53 73 95 128 189
5200 36 54 74 96 130 193
5300 37 55 76 98 133 197
5400 38 56 77 100 135 200
5500 38 57 78 102 138 204
5600 39 58 80 104 140 208
5700 40 59 81 106 143 211
5800 40 60 83 108 145 215
5900 41 61 84 109 148 219
6000 42 63 86 111 150 223
6100 43 64 87 113 153 226
6200 43 65 88 115 155 230
6300 44 66 90 117 158 234
6400 45 67 91 119 160 237
6500 45 68 93 121 163 241
6600 46 69 94 122 165 245
6700 47 70 96 124 168 249
6800 47 71 97 126 170 252
6900 48 72 98 128 173 256
7000 49 73 100 130 175 260