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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 02:06 AM
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383 help.

I'm in the process of building my first motor. I've helped build a couple motors, so I'm not a total noob . I have a forged 383 lt1 shortblock with dished pistons (-28 cc) and a set of Golen bowl ported heads with 2.00/1.56 valves and comp 987-16 valvesprings. I also have a set of summit 1.6 nsa rockers. I have a cam, ported lt1 intake, and throttlebody for my application. My fuel system upgrades include a Walbro 255 w/ Racetronix "hotwire" and 42 lb injectors. This is a forced induction setup, and I will be running a Procharger P600b at first. The car is a 1995 Camaro Z28 m6.

I know I need a timing set, timing cover, a set of 3/8 studs, guideplates, water pump, opti, lifters, oil pump, gaskets, oil pan, and bigger valve covers notched for the alternator.

I am going to be assembling this motor very soon and need a parts list of anything I missed. Also, I would like to know if the stock fuel rails and fuel pressure regulator would be ok with this setup.

Thanks a lot guys, I am really stressing out about this. I have been researching this for 2 years (mostly on this forum), but now its crunch time! Wish me luck, and hopefully I'll be whooping my friends stang!
Old Apr 25, 2011 | 02:26 AM
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Re: 383 help.

Part numbers would help for the items I know, and if you have parts to sell I have cash!
Old Apr 25, 2011 | 09:39 AM
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Hit the brakes on your build right now! Are you really planning on using a cast crank in a boosted engine?
Old Apr 25, 2011 | 10:36 AM
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I thought the Scat 9000 stuff was pretty good. That blower is good for about 800 flywheel, right? Low rpm street setup might work good.
Old Apr 25, 2011 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by AutoRoc
I thought the Scat 9000 stuff was pretty good. That blower is good for about 800 flywheel, right? Low rpm street setup might work good.
You're kidding, right:

SCAT

9000 Series Nodular Crankshafts

All 9000 Series Crankshafts are manufactured from a new revolutionary Space Age 9000%u2122 Series Material. This material was designed for high strength and fatigue resistance. 9000%u2122 Series material is the strongest cast material available! 25% stronger than the standard cast iron, and 2 to 5 pounds per crank lighter than a stock crank. Estimated horsepower use is 500HP for small blocks.
It must be strong if it "new revolutionary Space Age 9000 Series Material".

Back to the drawing board.
Old Apr 25, 2011 | 11:50 AM
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Re: 383 help.

Its going to be a mild street FI buildup, no high rpm or hard strip usage (it is just a p600b, not an f1r). The block does have splayed 4 bolt mains. I'm sure that I'm not the first guy to do it!

I'd appreciate if you guys could help me figure out what other parts I'm missing. I understand that the crank isn't ideal, but its what is going into the car regardless. I couldn't afford the forged crank.

Thanks again for any help you can give me, I really appreciate it.

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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 12:40 PM
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I mean you no disrespect, but that's just absurd. A motor of that caliber will EASILY put out 500+ HP at lower RPMs. You can afford a $5000 supercharger, but you can't afford the reliability of a crank that costs a mere few hundred dollars more? What's going to cost more? Spend the few hundred on the proper crankshaft now? Or potentially replace everything when it lets go? The 4-bolt mains won't prevent much either.

Yikes!
Old Apr 25, 2011 | 03:06 PM
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I bought the blower rebuilt 2 years ago for 2 grand before I knew anything about building motors. Then I bought a short block 2 years ago for 2K. Bought heads this year for 750. So 5 grand total has been spent on my long block. I'm on a tight budget, and my power goals aren't 700 rwhp.

I am well aware of my cranks limitations and have accepted that. If this was me asking about the power that my block can handle I'd appreciate the advice, but that isn't the point of the post. I just want to know what I am forgetting to get for my motor(pushrods).

Again, no disrespect but I'd like to know what I'm missing, not what I should have bought.


Ps, next year I intended on buying a forged crank.

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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 06:00 PM
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When the crank lets go maybe you will be lucky and it will destroy those heads too and then you can start from scratch and do it right the second time, the intake will probably be the only part you reuse.
Old Apr 25, 2011 | 06:15 PM
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When the crank lets go maybe you will be lucky and it will destroy those heads too and then you can start from scratch and do it right the second time, the intake will probably be the only part you reuse.
Thanks for being a nice guy. Real mature. Its people like this thatg make me glad to be a car guy. At least ramair95ta tried to be a nice guy about it.

I'll be sure to let you know when that happens.

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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 06:23 PM
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If I was to sell the 9000, what could I get for it? And can somebody please tell me if I'm missing any parts!

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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 07:12 PM
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There are a lot of us here with a lot of combined experience.
You claim to have spent the last 2 years researching this here on this forum yet you have made a number of very poor choices and are defending them. Of the 4 people who have responded 3 are saying you are headed a very bad way.
Old Apr 25, 2011 | 08:00 PM
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Re: 383 help.

I bought the blower, and started building a motor around that decision. I have got cylinder heads and a fuel system to match that out put. When I bought the shortblock, I was under the assumption that I would be at 500 hp, and I was fine with that. If I was mistaken of my power output so be it, but I am kinda stuck with the crank now.

I have a budget of 600 to 700 bucks to get this motor on the road, not enough to go out and buy a new crank. Logic dictates that I should have went forged, but budget(wife) did not allow for it at the time of purchase. It was not the ideal decision, but I'm living with it. I just wanted some help so I can finally enjoy the thousands of dollars and time that I have put into it.

I severely regret posting this whole thread in the first place, and I'm sorry if I seem hard headed. Sometimes we have to make concessions, and I have. But I just want it to be known that every choice I made was as informed as it could have been. That's the only reason I even asked if I forgot any parts, even though I think I got them all.

Ps, I should write novels... ;p
Old Apr 25, 2011 | 08:17 PM
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Before you go risking your hard-earned money on something unreliable, I would make another concession and wait until you have the money to use the right crank. It's just the sensible thing to do. I'd hate to see you get it all put together only to have that crank let go - then you'd be back at square one, with a broken car, with a broken motor, needing thousands more, ALL OVER AGAIN! What's another few months of waiting to do it right?

If you're still content with the Scat, I'll try to help you out with whatever else you need.
Old Apr 25, 2011 | 08:36 PM
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Re: 383 help.

honestly if you really want to use that crank why not wait to use the blower on another motor in the future?? make this a mild build now, enjoy the car as it is and start a better build, something more built for the supercharger... less downtime that way too... trust me you would be less worried too

ps you may need a little bit more then 42 lb injectors too but i may be wrong here.



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