236/242 joe o cam...good for n2o?
Re: 236/242 joe o cam...good for n2o?
Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
I got a case of whatever beer on it that it doesn't make 450rwhp with the said setup. I'm serious about it, you do a HR cam that size, LT1 intake, and LE3 heads and I will by you any case of beer you can think of.
Re: 236/242 joe o cam...good for n2o?
Originally Posted by simple
this thread has been jacked, sorry James
LR....300 out of an LT1/4 intake? (not something like Steve Quinns)
LR....300 out of an LT1/4 intake? (not something like Steve Quinns)
I said the heads would flow 300+,and Lloyd don't do the things to his heads to make um flow that because of cost. You guys wouldn't pay what it cost to make it happen on stock castings.
FYI neither car has a stock style intake and make in the high 400- low 500 range. They both have mech rollers also.
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Re: 236/242 joe o cam...good for n2o?
Originally Posted by 1racerdude
Didn't say anything about a "Stock" intake,now did I.
I said the heads would flow 300+,and Lloyd don't do the things to his heads to make um flow that because of cost. You guys wouldn't pay what it cost to make it happen on stock castings.
FYI neither car has a stock style intake and make in the high 400- low 500 range. They both have mech rollers also.
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I said the heads would flow 300+,and Lloyd don't do the things to his heads to make um flow that because of cost. You guys wouldn't pay what it cost to make it happen on stock castings.
FYI neither car has a stock style intake and make in the high 400- low 500 range. They both have mech rollers also.
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Re: 236/242 joe o cam...good for n2o?
Originally Posted by simple
technically, you typed "stock castings". too which i was just asking a question on whether you meant intake as well 

Ya can take 12-15% off of the head flow with the stock intake bolted on.An off the shelf sheet metal is approximately 8-10% unless ya get a Wilson or have one custom made.The Victor type intake is app 8-10% unless it has been well worked over. I have seen sheet metal intakes that didn't loose but 3% but they were special one of and very pricey-- It was a Wilson.I have a Wilson intake that doesn't loose but 3%--ain't cheap and he said it would outflow one of his prepared Super Victor's and it isn't sheet metal.
Last edited by 1racerdude; Oct 12, 2005 at 04:01 PM.
Re: 236/242 joe o cam...good for n2o?
Originally Posted by JustNO
Ok your torque will be low than a 383cid, but I'm sure you will see at least 470 rwhp with that setup.. But you don't expect drivability with that big cam on weekends 

Re: 236/242 joe o cam...good for n2o?
The thing that I don't understand is, 550bhp means ~470rwhp (with %15 drivetrain loss).. At Golen's website http://www.golenengineservice.com/html/lt1_lt4.html you can see 520bhp with 396cid 236/242 camshaft and 200cc Trick flow heads (heads were 195cc AFRs, but he changed the package)
520bhp = 442rwhp (%15 loss) And you say with much bigger heads and much bigger cam its impossible to see 470rwhp??
Lots of people think like that okay I'm wrong, but explain to me please
520bhp = 442rwhp (%15 loss) And you say with much bigger heads and much bigger cam its impossible to see 470rwhp??
Lots of people think like that okay I'm wrong, but explain to me please
Re: 236/242 joe o cam...good for n2o?
Originally Posted by JustNO
The thing that I don't understand is, 550bhp means ~470rwhp (with %15 drivetrain loss).. At Golen's website http://www.golenengineservice.com/html/lt1_lt4.html you can see 520bhp with 396cid 236/242 camshaft and 200cc Trick flow heads (heads were 195cc AFRs, but he changed the package)
520bhp = 442rwhp (%15 loss) And you say with much bigger heads and much bigger cam its impossible to see 470rwhp??
Lots of people think like that okay I'm wrong, but explain to me please
520bhp = 442rwhp (%15 loss) And you say with much bigger heads and much bigger cam its impossible to see 470rwhp??
Lots of people think like that okay I'm wrong, but explain to me please
The drivetrain loss for an auto is about 18%.For a stick it is about 10%. Some will argue that but it is a good rule of thumb.
550FWHP is not hard to make with a 383 and a mech roller,with good heads,cam,compression,and intake,on pump gas.Ya can almost get there with a hyd roller.
Re: 236/242 joe o cam...good for n2o?
In one of the earlier posts, Joe stated a tighter LSA would be good in a supercharged application. As that is contrary to what I've always heard, can you (Joe) or someone else explain this?
Thanks!
CT
Thanks!
CT



...but not even half of it deals with my question