Z06 engine in a F-body?
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Z06 engine in a F-body?
Has anyone ever done this, put a LS6 in an F-body?
I wonder if my Chevy dealership would price quote me on a swap... do dealerships usually do such work, if you have the cash to back it?
I mean, I dont... I was just curious =)
Someday, it'd be a dream, to put a Ls6 in my car.
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I wonder if my Chevy dealership would price quote me on a swap... do dealerships usually do such work, if you have the cash to back it?
I mean, I dont... I was just curious =)
Someday, it'd be a dream, to put a Ls6 in my car.
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Check out some of the aftermarket folks with engine packages like:
http://www.lingenfelter.com/packagesfls1.asp
Why limit yourself to the LS6?
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http://www.lingenfelter.com/packagesfls1.asp
Why limit yourself to the LS6?
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How about a cheaper alternative. Since you have an '02 you already have the LS6 block, and the LS6 intake manifold. So to complete the conversion all you need are the LS6 heads and cam.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ricoZg:
How about a cheaper alternative. Since you have an '02 you already have the LS6 block, and the LS6 intake manifold. So to complete the conversion all you need are the LS6 heads and cam.
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How about a cheaper alternative. Since you have an '02 you already have the LS6 block, and the LS6 intake manifold. So to complete the conversion all you need are the LS6 heads and cam.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Desolate_Flux:
How expensive are these heads and cams? =)
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How expensive are these heads and cams? =)
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And FYI,I don't think the blocks are different.The cost was exactly the same for a '98-'02.Kevin
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What costs $4k-$5k? You can purchase LS6 heads from Pace for $646.00 each, and the LS6 cam for $217.40 also from Pace. I agree that CNC ported LS1 heads and a cam from Thunder Racing or T Byrne will produce more power.
I'm pretty sure the '01-'02 LS1's share the same block as the LS6.
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01 Onyx Black Z28 A4
fully loaded, t-tops
SLP LM, SLP quad exhaust kit, SLP lid, SLP 85mm MAF, K&N, FTRA, BMR STB, HPP3, 3.73's, 160 degree powerstat, TB bypass
I'm pretty sure the '01-'02 LS1's share the same block as the LS6.
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01 Onyx Black Z28 A4
fully loaded, t-tops
SLP LM, SLP quad exhaust kit, SLP lid, SLP 85mm MAF, K&N, FTRA, BMR STB, HPP3, 3.73's, 160 degree powerstat, TB bypass
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ricoZg:
What costs $4k-$5k? You can purchase LS6 heads from Pace for $646.00 each, and the LS6 cam for $217.40 also from Pace. I agree that CNC ported LS1 heads and a cam from Thunder Racing or T Byrne will produce more power.
I'm pretty sure the '01-'02 LS1's share the same block as the LS6.
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What costs $4k-$5k? You can purchase LS6 heads from Pace for $646.00 each, and the LS6 cam for $217.40 also from Pace. I agree that CNC ported LS1 heads and a cam from Thunder Racing or T Byrne will produce more power.
I'm pretty sure the '01-'02 LS1's share the same block as the LS6.
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Over at LS1Tech.com, a few folks have done this when they have needed a new motor under warranty.
Keep in mind that an 02 Z06 weighs 3000 lbs.
So when you look at Z06 performance, it's not JUST the more powerful engine.
A cam swap along would even up the power (to weight) advantage of the Z06.
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1998 Formula | ARE 422ci iron block with Stage II heads | 40 lb Injectors | LS6 Intake | TTS headers | 3" ORP | Mufflex 4" Catback | MSD Wires | Whisper lid | SLP MAF | FLP level IV 4L60E | Yank TPE4400 | Moser 9"/4.10's | RT Torque Arm | HAL Shocks and Springs (front) | V6 Springs (rear), Alston 8 pt Rollcage | Airlift Airbag | Weld Prostars | ASCD Hood | 11.15@120.30mph 1.53 3625 raceweight LS1TECH.COM
Keep in mind that an 02 Z06 weighs 3000 lbs.
So when you look at Z06 performance, it's not JUST the more powerful engine.
A cam swap along would even up the power (to weight) advantage of the Z06.
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1998 Formula | ARE 422ci iron block with Stage II heads | 40 lb Injectors | LS6 Intake | TTS headers | 3" ORP | Mufflex 4" Catback | MSD Wires | Whisper lid | SLP MAF | FLP level IV 4L60E | Yank TPE4400 | Moser 9"/4.10's | RT Torque Arm | HAL Shocks and Springs (front) | V6 Springs (rear), Alston 8 pt Rollcage | Airlift Airbag | Weld Prostars | ASCD Hood | 11.15@120.30mph 1.53 3625 raceweight LS1TECH.COM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Pro Stock John:
Over at LS1Tech.com, a few folks have done this when they have needed a new motor under warranty.
Keep in mind that an 02 Z06 weighs 3000 lbs.
So when you look at Z06 performance, it's not JUST the more powerful engine.
A cam swap along would even up the power (to weight) advantage of the Z06.
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Over at LS1Tech.com, a few folks have done this when they have needed a new motor under warranty.
Keep in mind that an 02 Z06 weighs 3000 lbs.
So when you look at Z06 performance, it's not JUST the more powerful engine.
A cam swap along would even up the power (to weight) advantage of the Z06.
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completing the LS6 conversion is a little more complicated than you think.
LS6 has different oil valley, EGR...
Also heads from GM direct don't come with valves which are $45 each x 16 = $720 ouch..
I would go for the LS6 CNC heads which are $2000, fully assembled and a custom cam and headers...
Steve
LS6 has different oil valley, EGR...
Also heads from GM direct don't come with valves which are $45 each x 16 = $720 ouch..
I would go for the LS6 CNC heads which are $2000, fully assembled and a custom cam and headers...
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ricoZg:
What costs $4k-$5k? You can purchase LS6 heads from Pace for $646.00 each, and the LS6 cam for $217.40 also from Pace. I agree that CNC ported LS1 heads and a cam from Thunder Racing or T Byrne will produce more power.
I'm pretty sure the '01-'02 LS1's share the same block as the LS6.
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What costs $4k-$5k? You can purchase LS6 heads from Pace for $646.00 each, and the LS6 cam for $217.40 also from Pace. I agree that CNC ported LS1 heads and a cam from Thunder Racing or T Byrne will produce more power.
I'm pretty sure the '01-'02 LS1's share the same block as the LS6.
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).There was some guy on here selling the kits for turning a LS1 into a LS6 for $4-$5k.This came with the intake, seals, gaskets, etc.Everything needed to do the swap.This was also all GM parts straight from the factory.I can't remember the guy's name.It was quite a while ago.Kevin
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*Some* of the 01/02 LS1s came with the LS6 block. The only source of speculation now is exactly how many. Some "inside" sources say they all got them...some other "inside" sources say that only some of the cars got them (when the normal LS1 block supply on hand was low)...
:dunno:
Anyway, don't forget that it isn't as simple as just changing out the heads & cam. You basically have to replace the entire valvetrain, including valves & springs...I would guess the parts alone would get you up in the $3-4K range...you are definitely better off going with aftermarket stuff...
Shane
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[This message has been edited by ShaneS (edited August 30, 2002).]
:dunno:
Anyway, don't forget that it isn't as simple as just changing out the heads & cam. You basically have to replace the entire valvetrain, including valves & springs...I would guess the parts alone would get you up in the $3-4K range...you are definitely better off going with aftermarket stuff...
Shane
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2002 Sunset Orange Metallic WS6 T/A MN6-PICS-
Mods: Whisper Lid/Whisper MAF ends/SLP bellows/MAFT(+10/-4)/FLP headers/Hooker catback/BMR STB,SFCs
Looks: Custom polished ROH Snypers
Other: Redline/NGK TR55s/MSD wires/Potenza RE730s/Zaino
99 Pewter/Red 'Mecham' T/A MN6 - SOLD
[This message has been edited by ShaneS (edited August 30, 2002).]
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