Where does your temp gauge sit w/ the 160* stat?
09-20-2006, 11:31 AM
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Re: Where does your temp gauge sit w/ the 160* stat?
Originally Posted by teke184
so tell me why i need my fans reset?
in stock temps they are sufficient to prevent overheating (assuming all else is OK)
in stock temps they are sufficient to prevent overheating (assuming all else is OK)
09-21-2006, 10:07 AM
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Re: Where does your temp gauge sit w/ the 160* stat?
right under 210 like they say its not working too hott on our cars now my lt1 car its sits where it supposed to be! You would think they would want a functional temp gague...but on the lt1 no functional fuel gague lol
09-21-2006, 01:52 PM
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Re: Where does your temp gauge sit w/ the 160* stat?
on my LT1....(my ls1 doesn't have a working temp guage)...the guage would barely move at most lights...even in florida summer heat.
maybe they make them longer where you live
maybe they make them longer where you live
09-22-2006, 12:05 AM
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Re: Where does your temp gauge sit w/ the 160* stat?
LS1 temp guages work just exactly as the General intended. The move to the idiot gauge was brought about by too many morons going to the dealer and complaining that there was something wrong with their car because the temperature guage was fluctuating too much. So to cut down on free service calls to tell the customer that there was nothing wrong GM engineers desinged the 99 and up temp guage. It shows cold when cold and it shows about 200° when the real temp is between 178° and about 210° and when the car over heats it will climb to the limit of the guage. Now the normal idiot is happy as a clam that his coolant temp is stable and we enthusiasts have to deal.
09-22-2006, 03:02 PM
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Re: Where does your temp gauge sit w/ the 160* stat?
Originally Posted by teke184
maybe they make them longer where you live
09-23-2006, 07:13 PM
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Re: Where does your temp gauge sit w/ the 160* stat?
I disagree with the temp guage in 99 ups being just idiot guages. They do work, they're just desensitized. My experience is based on my 00.
Stock Mine sat near the 210 range. The needle actually had no black between it and the 210 mark. Now w/the t-stat it sets in what I would guess as the 180-190 range. I can see a strip of black thats wider than the needle between the needle and the 210 line. The one time it began to over heat, it would climb some and hold.
No, my temp won't fluctuate from the few degrees difference from when I stop and then start moving, but it does with larger changes. Doesn't sounds like a dummy guage that only reads cold, warm and hot to me.
Stock Mine sat near the 210 range. The needle actually had no black between it and the 210 mark. Now w/the t-stat it sets in what I would guess as the 180-190 range. I can see a strip of black thats wider than the needle between the needle and the 210 line. The one time it began to over heat, it would climb some and hold.
No, my temp won't fluctuate from the few degrees difference from when I stop and then start moving, but it does with larger changes. Doesn't sounds like a dummy guage that only reads cold, warm and hot to me.
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09-24-2006, 08:28 AM
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Re: Where does your temp gauge sit w/ the 160* stat?
Originally Posted by Greed4Speed
I disagree with the temp guage in 99 ups being just idiot guages. They do work, they're just desensitized. My experience is based on my 00.
Stock Mine sat near the 210 range. The needle actually had no black between it and the 210 mark. Now w/the t-stat it sets in what I would guess as the 180-190 range. I can see a strip of black thats wider than the needle between the needle and the 210 line. The one time it began to over heat, it would climb some and hold.
No, my temp won't fluctuate from the few degrees difference from when I stop and then start moving, but it does with larger changes. Doesn't sounds like a dummy guage that only reads cold, warm and hot to me.
Stock Mine sat near the 210 range. The needle actually had no black between it and the 210 mark. Now w/the t-stat it sets in what I would guess as the 180-190 range. I can see a strip of black thats wider than the needle between the needle and the 210 line. The one time it began to over heat, it would climb some and hold.
No, my temp won't fluctuate from the few degrees difference from when I stop and then start moving, but it does with larger changes. Doesn't sounds like a dummy guage that only reads cold, warm and hot to me.
it is a dummy gauge. It doesn't show accurate readings. Most LS1's run way cooler than 210. Mine never breaks 175 except on very hot days.
If you start overheating in a 99+ car, you have that much less time to act on it and pull over cuz the needle won't move till the temp passes 210 deg. whereas on the 98 you'll see it climb immediately. Mine has never raised temp at a stoplight.
09-25-2006, 04:26 AM
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Re: Where does your temp gauge sit w/ the 160* stat?
Originally Posted by Bayer-Z28
W/ the 98's....COuld you some how swap gauges, sending units, or the whole cluster??
09-25-2006, 04:31 AM
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Re: Where does your temp gauge sit w/ the 160* stat?
Originally Posted by GoFast908Z
it is a dummy gauge. It doesn't show accurate readings. Most LS1's run way cooler than 210. Mine never breaks 175 except on very hot days.
If you start overheating in a 99+ car, you have that much less time to act on it and pull over cuz the needle won't move till the temp passes 210 deg. whereas on the 98 you'll see it climb immediately. Mine has never raised temp at a stoplight.
If you start overheating in a 99+ car, you have that much less time to act on it and pull over cuz the needle won't move till the temp passes 210 deg. whereas on the 98 you'll see it climb immediately. Mine has never raised temp at a stoplight.
09-25-2006, 11:40 AM
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Re: Where does your temp gauge sit w/ the 160* stat?
i didn't say that 210 was overheating. I was pointing out that you would have more time to notice the needle climbing in a 98 car, whereas in a 99+ you wouldn't know until the needle moved past 210. Could make a minute or 2 difference.
09-25-2006, 11:45 AM
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Re: Where does your temp gauge sit w/ the 160* stat?
Originally Posted by AL SS590 M6
210 is nowhere near over heated. The coolant is good for 238° before boiling and that is the point at which you can begin to worry and get it off the road. The damage to an over heated motor starts when the coolant boils and causes air pockets allowing the metal of the heads or block to get hot enough to warp and break. If you could keep the coolant from boiling you could run your motor up to 300° + and never hurt it. But there's no coolant like that available.
09-26-2006, 05:18 PM
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Re: Where does your temp gauge sit w/ the 160* stat?
OK let me put experience to work on this one. Everyone that says your LS1 runs at 170 or 180 with a 160stat is way wrong. I have a 99 that the guage doesn't do anything but sit at 210 when warm. So what did I do I went out and got an autometer electric gauge and a 160stat. After that I am now looking for a manual fan switch because in traffic or occasionally while crusing MY CAR RUNS AT 230 while that stock gauge reads at just below 210.
That is way to hot. At that temp you risk blowing head gaskets along with loosing power, heak soak which causes retard in timing and unwanted strain on your engine.
Now yes the 160 stat alone will do some good but all it does is open earlier allowing the coolant to flow. It has nothing to do with cooling the collant. You need to either have your fans reprogramed or get a manual fan switch and a working gauge. For all of you who don't believe me go get a working gauge and let me know what you find. Hope this puts an end to this argument.
That is way to hot. At that temp you risk blowing head gaskets along with loosing power, heak soak which causes retard in timing and unwanted strain on your engine.
Now yes the 160 stat alone will do some good but all it does is open earlier allowing the coolant to flow. It has nothing to do with cooling the collant. You need to either have your fans reprogramed or get a manual fan switch and a working gauge. For all of you who don't believe me go get a working gauge and let me know what you find. Hope this puts an end to this argument.