What makes an SS an SS?
#46
Originally posted by CODY BEHNKE
But park a SS next to a Z28 and see which one everyone looks at.
But park a SS next to a Z28 and see which one everyone looks at.
#48
Originally posted by CODY BEHNKE
The hoods being opened would have nothing to do with it. Most people don't know the specifics. To them it is a SS and thats all that matters.
The hoods being opened would have nothing to do with it. Most people don't know the specifics. To them it is a SS and thats all that matters.
Again, I would have a SS if they were a specific model, not just an option on the Z28, but the banks would only give me enough for a Z28. So it was either wait until next year and save for a larger down payment, or get the Z now and throw that extra money into mods. I chose the latter.
#49
ok i am tired of all this b!tching....
For all you z28 owners the SS is faster deal with it! All this whine, whine, bohoo i thought my z28 was the fastest.....boo hoo.
"Its just an appearance mod", well i would wrather have a car that looks good then something plain. There is no difference between a z28 and an RS with teh exceptoin of the stickers and some rims.
The SS is the fastest production camaro. And weather its got 325 or 335 the SS still beats teh 305 hp of a z28.
For all you z28 owners the SS is faster deal with it! All this whine, whine, bohoo i thought my z28 was the fastest.....boo hoo.
"Its just an appearance mod", well i would wrather have a car that looks good then something plain. There is no difference between a z28 and an RS with teh exceptoin of the stickers and some rims.
The SS is the fastest production camaro. And weather its got 325 or 335 the SS still beats teh 305 hp of a z28.
#50
Uh, the SS is not faster. As I stated earlier, the fastest cars are the low option cars. The SS's stiffer suspension and sidewalls on the heavier 17-inch rims will actually hurt it at the track. The factory ratings for all the LS1 models are useless as they all dyno the same with variations from engine to engine, not model to model. Sorry to burst your bubble, but what "looks good" is very subjective. Try and keep an open mind as nobody was "b!tching."
#51
A low option car is only 30-40lbs lighter, at the track that means almost nothing. And thats if they have 0 options but even Z28's came standard with it's share of options. The only weight difference that will slow a car down is if it's a convertable.
#52
Try more like 60lbs. No window motors, seat motors, power trunk motor, antenna motor, door latch mechanisms, cloth seats, less wiring, stereo stuff, no fog lights, etc. Besides that, there's the difference in weights for the rims and tires. Most SS have T-tops and all WS6s do. I'm not sure what that adds because the panels are pretty light and the bracing can't be too much extra material. Even 40 pounds from a dead stop will mean something, but even disregarding that, the sidewall flex and stiffer suspension will definitely hurt the SS. I love the SS cars and evn have a SS hood on mine, but some people get carried away with the "SS is faster" thing.
#54
Originally posted by LT-14me
ok i am tired of all this b!tching....
For all you z28 owners the SS is faster deal with it! All this whine, whine, bohoo i thought my z28 was the fastest.....boo hoo.
"Its just an appearance mod", well i would wrather have a car that looks good then something plain. There is no difference between a z28 and an RS with teh exceptoin of the stickers and some rims.
The SS is the fastest production camaro. And weather its got 325 or 335 the SS still beats teh 305 hp of a z28.
ok i am tired of all this b!tching....
For all you z28 owners the SS is faster deal with it! All this whine, whine, bohoo i thought my z28 was the fastest.....boo hoo.
"Its just an appearance mod", well i would wrather have a car that looks good then something plain. There is no difference between a z28 and an RS with teh exceptoin of the stickers and some rims.
The SS is the fastest production camaro. And weather its got 325 or 335 the SS still beats teh 305 hp of a z28.
-Mike
#55
I think 40lbs. is a closer estimate but either way it wouldn't have any noticeable impact on track times. Thats the fraction of the weight of one person. Ironically convertibles are heavier then hard tops.
As for the ricers being ignorant, I couldn't agree more. I went to a import car show and I saw 2 cars out of over 50 with there hoods opened all the rest were showing off there PS2 that folded out of the glove box.
As for the ricers being ignorant, I couldn't agree more. I went to a import car show and I saw 2 cars out of over 50 with there hoods opened all the rest were showing off there PS2 that folded out of the glove box.
#56
Originally posted by LT-14me
ok i am tired of all this b!tching....
For all you z28 owners the SS is faster deal with it! All this whine, whine, bohoo i thought my z28 was the fastest.....boo hoo.
"Its just an appearance mod", well i would wrather have a car that looks good then something plain. There is no difference between a z28 and an RS with teh exceptoin of the stickers and some rims.
The SS is the fastest production camaro. And weather its got 325 or 335 the SS still beats teh 305 hp of a z28.
ok i am tired of all this b!tching....
For all you z28 owners the SS is faster deal with it! All this whine, whine, bohoo i thought my z28 was the fastest.....boo hoo.
"Its just an appearance mod", well i would wrather have a car that looks good then something plain. There is no difference between a z28 and an RS with teh exceptoin of the stickers and some rims.
The SS is the fastest production camaro. And weather its got 325 or 335 the SS still beats teh 305 hp of a z28.
#57
Originally posted by danziger
Try more like 60lbs. No window motors, seat motors, power trunk motor, antenna motor, door latch mechanisms, cloth seats, less wiring, stereo stuff, no fog lights, etc. Besides that, there's the difference in weights for the rims and tires. Most SS have T-tops and all WS6s do. I'm not sure what that adds because the panels are pretty light and the bracing can't be too much extra material. Even 40 pounds from a dead stop will mean something, but even disregarding that, the sidewall flex and stiffer suspension will definitely hurt the SS. I love the SS cars and evn have a SS hood on mine, but some people get carried away with the "SS is faster" thing.
Try more like 60lbs. No window motors, seat motors, power trunk motor, antenna motor, door latch mechanisms, cloth seats, less wiring, stereo stuff, no fog lights, etc. Besides that, there's the difference in weights for the rims and tires. Most SS have T-tops and all WS6s do. I'm not sure what that adds because the panels are pretty light and the bracing can't be too much extra material. Even 40 pounds from a dead stop will mean something, but even disregarding that, the sidewall flex and stiffer suspension will definitely hurt the SS. I love the SS cars and evn have a SS hood on mine, but some people get carried away with the "SS is faster" thing.
#60
Originally posted by CODY BEHNKE
...The only weight difference that will slow a car down is if it's a convertable.
...The only weight difference that will slow a car down is if it's a convertable.
I have only been down the strip about 10 times in a 6 speed so I won't take credit for being an awesome drag racer. But my car ran 13.3 @ 106 stock. Sounds about like everybody else's stock times. I'd like to find out for sure just how much more weight I'm carrying.
One more thing to think about: almost all that extra weight is shifted toward the back seat where all the bracing, mounting hardware and pumps are. Better for traction and weight transfer?