Trans Am --98
Re: Trans Am --98
My '98 Z28 with 100K on it doesn't make much noise at idle when cold.
Remember guys, it's a GOOD think we audible piston slap (if you look at it right). If GM would have used iron blocks in their GenIII motors, we wouldn't have this issue. Being the block is the single heaviest piece on our car, I'd gladly take an Aluminum one. Very few cars in this price range have an Al block.
Even though grey cast iron blocks are quieter, I'd still choose the aluminum block for its lighter weight. Very few LS1 cars make enough power (taking a lot of them into consideration here) to warrant a heavier, more rigid, steel block.
I'd agree with the theory Abe pointed out, that being, if aluminum expands at a different rate than iron, the pistons need a while to expand to within tolerance in the bores. This is also the same reason you don't want to go WOT on a super/turbocharged car right after start up... unless you like building motors.
My friend mwill15 has a 2001 SS with a diesel in it (49K miles). EngineerMike's dad has been seen driving a rattle-free, mint, '02 Firebird that also has an appreciable amount of slap. Saying that the '01 & '02 cars have no piston slap issue is a misnomer.
Ben T.
Remember guys, it's a GOOD think we audible piston slap (if you look at it right). If GM would have used iron blocks in their GenIII motors, we wouldn't have this issue. Being the block is the single heaviest piece on our car, I'd gladly take an Aluminum one. Very few cars in this price range have an Al block.
Even though grey cast iron blocks are quieter, I'd still choose the aluminum block for its lighter weight. Very few LS1 cars make enough power (taking a lot of them into consideration here) to warrant a heavier, more rigid, steel block.
I'd agree with the theory Abe pointed out, that being, if aluminum expands at a different rate than iron, the pistons need a while to expand to within tolerance in the bores. This is also the same reason you don't want to go WOT on a super/turbocharged car right after start up... unless you like building motors.
My friend mwill15 has a 2001 SS with a diesel in it (49K miles). EngineerMike's dad has been seen driving a rattle-free, mint, '02 Firebird that also has an appreciable amount of slap. Saying that the '01 & '02 cars have no piston slap issue is a misnomer.
Ben T.
Re: Trans Am --98
Originally Posted by jalb
hey the people that DONT have piston slap will u plz tell how many miles is on ur camaro...
69,200 No Slap
11-20-05 Last Day I drove/start'd it, In storage for Winter
78000'ish No Slap
Also it burns about 1/3 or 1/4 a Quart Ever 8k on AMSOil 5-30 with PF59 Filter or K&N Filter
FYI - Issues i have had with my 98
Wire and Plugs - Fix Missfire in Cyl #4 (Lookd factory)
Replaced Dif Seal and Fluid( was Seapage and fluid didnt look good to me)
Fuel Filter was VARY OLD i couldnt blow though it
and Roters and Pads
Front Trun Single Housing and Pig tall replament(water Dmg)
Are the only Issues i have run into with my 98 T/A
Re: Trans Am --98
Originally Posted by 95WhiteTA
Why use aluminum blocks with iron pistons? LT1's have aluminum pistons, so why not use aluminum pistons with the LS1 aluminum block? wouldn't that eliminate the slap?
Ben T.
Re: Trans Am --98
Originally Posted by StudyTime
If GM would have used iron blocks in their GenIII motors, we wouldn't have this issue. [/B]
Ben T.
Ben T.
Actually the cause of the slap issue on LS1s is the pistons. Older engines used pistons with a steel insert. LS1 pistons don't have the steel slipper... lighter weight, quicker acceleration. But they expand more so they had to increase the clearance a bit. Most engines are still quiet, but those unlucky few who have a block with the bores at the max allowable bore size + pistons at the minimum allowable size have extra clearance... and the noise that results.
Re: Trans Am --98
Originally Posted by 95WhiteTA
ok so the iron sleeves are what aren't expanding as fast as the block, that makes more sense, cause i figured LS1's couldn't have iron pistons, that would be stupid.
Re: Trans Am --98
my 99 trans am is fun but sucks
90k miles, no piston slap, crappy power (for a t/a that is) i think any other 4th gen on the road would beat me maybe even lt1's
so no piston slap no oil loss but plenty of other funny noises and small probs
that being said.... it'll do me just fine till i get a vette
thats what they're for right?
90k miles, no piston slap, crappy power (for a t/a that is) i think any other 4th gen on the road would beat me maybe even lt1's
so no piston slap no oil loss but plenty of other funny noises and small probs
that being said.... it'll do me just fine till i get a vette
thats what they're for right?
Re: Trans Am --98
Originally Posted by jalb
hey the people that DONT have piston slap will u plz tell how many miles is on ur camaro...
My 2000 Formy, light piston slap just for 20 or 30 seconds on cold starts, no oil consumption, 24,000 miles with the last 3 years being a trailered race car.
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