I saw the same type of test, but it was in Hot Rod Magazine. It gained something like 10rwhp from changing all the fluids. Now what you need to keep in mind is that the engine Is not really making 10 or 15 more horsepower, but by decreasing the amount of friction, 10 more hp can actually get to the wheels.

Bad Andy

 

Nicely put, I think we forgot to mention that

 

now I fully understand what you are saying.. dont get me wrong.. but my point is that since our cars or at least the 2002 I have came with syn already in the rear end.. That It is not making enough of a difference to register.. Soo to get 8-10 HP to show at the rear you would have to gain about what a Lid gives you. Now does that seem at all rational?

Thats why I did my test.. Thats why I now go along with the other enlightened people who say that its not gonna happen..

I may do it again with RP since I know people that work there.. But I dont see it happening... Not 8rw.. nope..

 

Your probably right psycho. I am still very skeptical.
But I do believe that less friction will give you added HP, but in these cases there must have been sludge in there or something.

Anyhow like I said earlier, I spoke to the guy who had his car on the TV show and he said there were no tricks done to his car to show those results.

But for me, when I change all my fluids, I'll count my HP gain as a +0, and if I do gain anything, cool!!! But I wouldn't be betting the house on it

 

The idea is that since the fluids are superior in all aspects to any other synthetic, they could perform better at a lower operating viscosity. Instead of making power like a lid, they free wasted horsepower like pulleys. They due in this in 3 key areas: the crank case, the transmission, and the rear end. A gain of 8 to 10 rwhp is not far fetched for a decent decrease in the coefficient of friction and parasitic drag.


Bad Andy

 

It isnt that we dont understand the "Theory" here.. its that the claims are far fetched... I would of like to of known how many miles were on the car, what fluids were in there originally, and how many runs were done before and after.

To get 8-10 rwhp you are gaining about 12-15 horsepower right? Figure you lose some with parasitic drag and whatnot.. for just fluids... In my 2002 I already had mobile 1. Originally I am not sure what fluid was in the motor but it was probably synthetic based on the longer interval for the fluid change. But mine had the original fluid replaced at 4K miles.. with Mobile 1.. I dynoed at Lingenfelter a 307 back to back.. but I dont count it as much since that was in Dallas and I dyno here in Houston now.. I dynoed 305 here for my baseline with Mobile 1.. Do I figure that it hurt me? No... I figure that the dynos are a little different.. I look for my car to put out similar numbers back to back.. Occasionally it does throw out a freaky numbers but that is because you can tell the computer is messing with the A/F Ratio..
I happen to know some people that work at Royal Purple... I really dont feel that it is a "super lube" that is any better or worse than any other synthetic.. I am sure any race motor making mega power will show a gain going from dino oil to synthetic.. but on MY car.. I just dont see that happening.. I am running 0w30 by the way... the stuff is pretty thin and flows much easier than the other oils I have used..

 

sorry but i see it as this: there are some things mechanically possible, and some things that are not. Oil changes are not gonna make a particular item, better, or produce more power, they may protect better from heat and wear, and even cold starts; but add more power? I think not. if there is a magic oil out there that adds hp it would cost alot more than just 5-9 dollars a qrt. just my 2 cents, to each it's own.

 

Ambitionz,
Why are you still talking about the engine makeing more power? It's not. Would you say that underdrive pulleys were made out of " Magic" metal? They result in more power at the wheels without the engine making any more power. And Psycho, How is that 0w30 treating you? I've always thought of 0w30 as an economy oil, for extremely low hp engines that can gain efficiency with less oil weight to throw around, without the danger of viscosity breakdown and all that jive. I would be too chicken to put that in my car.


Bad Andy

 

Back on the original subject, I've got Synchromax in my transmission, and at first it made more noise, but it subsided and works great.

 

Well if your gonna make a comparison; oil to pulleys is not a good one. Not trying to flame but: what you are saying makes no sense. how would some pulleys result in more power to the wheels without the engine gaining power? Simply because UDP's are bolt on's dosen't make them add on HP.(as u state"result in more power, without the engine making any") they release lost hp the engine loses, due to the added drag of the accesories, by slowing them down, that in turn frees up that lost hp. thus the engine gained that lost hp.

I was clearing up a misconception a couple of peeps posted on here that [CODE]"the oil added 10hp"[/CODE] . which is incorrect . the only way oil could maybe "free up lost power" is by reducing friction. maybe RP is the best a reducing friction, but i don't beleive it frees up 10 hp. in my poinion RP is making b/s claims