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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 06:29 AM
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Oh yeah, and I posted that when my car almost had 5k miles on it.

My SS now has almost 12k miles on it, and of course - it hasnt gotten any better, I've just learned the tricks and gotten used to it more.
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 07:54 AM
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Not going into 1st when sitting still at times is normal IMO. If you put it in neutral, let the clutch out (while engine running), then try first again, it should go in. Just like if you slide it into 2nd first. That will turn the gears just enough to let them line up. The gears and sync's just need to be turned slightly to alow the gears to mesh into each other. That will happen with many manuals but I agree the t-56 on the '02 seems to be real tight. I had the sloppy feeling stock shifter on both my cars when new. They both have the SLP short throw on them now. The '95Z with 68k is a little smoother than the '02 with 7k.
When slowing down and going into first you should be below 10 mph before it slips in easy. I just put a little pressure on the shifter and it falls right in at 10mph. At speeds above that you will have to force the sync's to pick up speed or double clutch and it will go in easier at faster speeds.
I've never had trouble when slam shifting and chirping tires in 2nd, 3rd and even 4th on a slick black top. Both of mine do feel notchy and tight but I'll take that over the old tranny's with linkage that would start to feel sloppy. And the stock shifter is
Another shifter may be better than the Hurst from the factory.
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by Desolate_Flux
Oh yeah, and I posted that when my car almost had 5k miles on it.

My SS now has almost 12k miles on it, and of course - it hasnt gotten any better, I've just learned the tricks and gotten used to it more.
wanna share the tricks with us?
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 10:15 AM
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The tricks of putting up with the stupid shifter that I've learned...


If you're at a stoplight, in neutral, before you shift it into first, do a quick second shift, then first - it usually fixes the problem of it not going in first right away.

Or better yet, before the light turns green already have it in first, that way you dont look like a fool who cant drive your own car, sitting there trying to get it in first.

Instead of waiting for the other car to jump on the highway to go from 6th to third, roll down your windows and listen - try to predict it, coast in neutral or in third with the clutch in, so you can launch alot faster =) - instead of the HUGE *** DELAY of trying to get it from sixth to third, even if you happen to hit third perfectly getting that extra resistance that forces you to use excessive force to get it in... Lameness that makes street racing a PITA.

Skipping gears helps a ton... driving casually going from first to third, then 5th - I rarely have problems there.

*shrug*

Just stuff you pick up from driving the pita shifter for a while... common sense... I'm not telling ya this stuff because I think you need to know, you asked - so I shared
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 12:18 PM
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If you're at a stoplight, in neutral, before you shift it into first, do a quick second shift, then first - it usually fixes the problem of it not going in first right away.


i know that one.....
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 01:09 PM
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When I quized the dealer about the possibility of swapping out the Hurst shifter for a conventional Chevy standard shift package, I was told the whole transmission has to be exchanged and they doubted it would fit the housing. I find that hard to believe that the transmissions aren't swappable. I also asked if they could simply switch out the tower that houses the Hurst package. Again no deal.
DOes anyone know if the tower or the transmission can be changed out to get away from the Hurst shifter. Sounds like more of you figure its inherent in the transmission more that the linkage.
The GM guy who told me about the fact GM knows they have a problem has since been fired from the dealership. A long term employee-makes you wonder what they really know.
Still getting caught between first and 2nd. The colder the weather the poorer the performance.
Even if I use the suggestions on shifting as commented on above the thing is still a poor performer.
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 02:55 PM
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Simply put... you were lied to about the whole tranny having to be swapped. It's less than an hour job. The shifter unbolts and a new one is bolted right to the top. They wanted to get rid of you. And they did.
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 03:38 PM
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Thanks. I figured they were trying to get rid of me. Don't worry I plan to keep after them until I get this problem resolved.
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 05:56 PM
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Thanks. I figured they were trying to get rid of me. Don't worry I plan to keep after them until I get this problem resolved.
good....thats a crappy thing of the dealership to do....
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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My 2002 does the exact same thing, including the clunk between frist, second, third, and fourth. I've been asking around trying to find out if its a problem that needs to be addressed and one of my buddies finally told me that his chevy used to do the same exact thing and that it was the U-Joints that were bad. As soon as he got them replaced, the clunk went away. My question now is if anyone else has had the same issue and if new U-joints fixed it or not. I'm going to take my car back to the dealer to get it fixed under warrenty, but i want to be able to tell the exactly what i want done so they dont try and screw me over like the last time i went there. Thanks for all the input on this thread so far

~Olson (not the same guy as olsen)
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 08:45 PM
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so the clunking is back?????
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 07:45 AM
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Well I finally told the dealer and the Field district manager that if they didn't try and fix my car that I would turn it over to my attorney under the lemon law. This would be my 4th trip back in on the same problem. The light when off-finally that I was serious. They have agreed to take the car, have their head mechanic drive it for a couple days to see what it drive like.
Now-they think they can swap out the parts-funny what happens when you threaten a suit-they are checking into the question further. I'll keep evreyone posted as things unfold in the next few days. Thanks for all the advise.
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by Desolate_Flux
Seems to me like we have alot of M6 owners 'putting up' with the hardness of the shifting - I'm very glad to know it wasnt just me.

Is anyone mechanically familiar with the whole setup so maybe if the dealer wont help us out, we can find a solution to this?
I've located a stock shifter locally for $10. I'm gonna swap it in as an experiment to see if it is related to the Hurst shifter. I'm also gonna do a little research at the dealership parts department. I'm gonna get the part numbers for the stock Camaro and Z06 throw out bearings and see if they are the same. They should be. But I haven't heard of any C5 owners griping about this. Has any one else. Oops, I just realized that the C5 tranny is in the rear. Completely different setup. Hmmmm.

I'll let you know what I find out. The throw out bearing should still be the same though. It's supposed to be the same clutch.
Old Mar 3, 2003 | 07:57 AM
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Finally got the local Chev dealer involved (had bought the car in another city) and he got the GM district manager involved. They have had the car since last Tuesday and on Friday now admit there is a probelm with the transmission or/and the shifter. I should know more today.
Old Mar 3, 2003 | 09:05 AM
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Awesome... I'm anxious to hear the results, because the dealership out here says that 'everything is fine', which is a load of crap...



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