Okay guys---head over to the lounge and check out page 6 and 7 of "Is the Formula the fastest F-body" and read my posts.

Theres a few there who think the TTA can match an LS1---esp
accelerating as hard at really high speeds.

No way---no how

0-130 for a TTA is about 30 secs
0-130 for an LS1 about 22

They think just casue the 1/4 is close the TTA will stay with an LS1
accelerating at high speeds.

If you think so to--give me some support.
I tried to support with facts and inna rqational manner---maybe they aren't rational people?

 

bone stock ls1's have gone 12's and made over 300rwhp..

the TTA does not do either in stock form... its pretty simple math actually.

most people just arent very well enformed

 

Seen two TTA's go 12's bone stock, HP doesn't get you to the other end torque does. Any LS1 doesn't even come close to a TTA's rwtq #'s. Dyno's don't measure HP. (Unless you ask a Supra owner.) HP is a pretty simple math calc. of torque.

 

02' f body over the 89 tta no doubt. if the tta was on slicks it may be different, but the tires on the tta didn't allow for much of a launch let alone outpulling an LS1 on the big end.

 

so what are the rwtq # put down by bone stock unmodded TTA's?

 

The problem here is with the definition of stock. In bone stock showroom condition, the LS1 is faster. With a few free/cheap mods, the TTA, like many turbo cars, can be made faster. A swapped out chip and race fuel is not stock.

 

The TTA wont go 12's without a tire and slight mods

 

They were upper 13 second cars stock, at least stock as it was defined in the early 90's. I have even seen one running low 14's back in about 1990.

I am not trying to flame the TTA, I think it is the perfect pony car.

 

LOL, of course it does. That won't be long I just put a link from that message thread to here.

 

Horsepower does count though. If it didn't we would all have 600+rwtq deisel motors.

I stil don't know why we are argueing over this.

Hi-psi said that Pontiac claimed the cars made 301rwhp and at least 380rwtq before they shipped them to the dealers. The turbo makes for monster torque as do most power adders.

 

I'm sure this could be verified at a site like gnttype.org, but I seem to recall a road test on a TTA (stock) from that time and the car ran 13.30's at 106 or so. That's comparable to an LS1.
As far as accelerating past the 1/4 mile, I don't know. Turbo cars generally don't like to run at WOT for extended periods.

 

almost every response is about quarter mile times. The original post admits they are close to the quarter mile, but after that the LS1 wins.

 

If an showroom stock LS1 can top 171 mph than yeh It is faster. During trial runs at Indy in 89' that is what the TTA was clocked at in the straights. Quicker? Even myself owning a TTA, bought new, I would have to say on average, LS1's would be quicker in the 1/4. 0-60, TTA all the way. I haven't seen any test of an LS1 reaching 60 better than 4.6 seconds. JMO

 

i'd like to see the test with the tta doing 4.6 to 60 on it's stock gatorbacks and as for top speed, the 320hp ss was clocked at 167 with everything stock except the rev limiter was moved up on an m6 model. the official posted top speed of the tta was like 160 or 162 which is what the m6 models with LS1 will do. another thing to consider, the LS1 doesn't require boosting up at the line to get good numbers as a tta does which is difficult to do on the street. not that i don't really like the tta, i've worked on them and driven them. they are great, but the turbo lag sucks as well as a few other parts. for it's time, there wasn't much out there to compete with it.

 

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