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How to get in the 12 sec. class with stock LS1

Old 11-02-2005, 09:23 AM
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Re: How to get in the 12 sec. class with stock LS1

How much is it for the TCI SSF 3500 and what are the typical gains in the 1/4 mile? Where to buy it? Are they hard to install? What about labor costs?
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Old 11-02-2005, 09:44 AM
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Re: How to get in the 12 sec. class with stock LS1

I say get the Vigilante convertor. I think its the best u can get. I got a great deal for my vigelante convertor, from a friend that i have who owns a speed shop. He gave it to me for $400 and he said he will put everything in for $350. Right now its getting a 3800 stall. With that and some 3:73, look out

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Old 11-05-2005, 02:14 PM
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Re: How to get in the 12 sec. class with stock LS1

30th, here's how to get in the 12's

12.97@106.66
60ft was 1.97
Mods- Free ram air, lid
Tires -Kelly T rated
Weather was about 50degF
DA was about -350ft

Staging technique was to just barely light the 2nd stage bulb. Bring car up against converter as far as possible and nail the gas as hard and fast as I could. Run was made at Mason Dixon dragway in Maryland.
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Old 11-05-2005, 05:47 PM
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-350ft.... is death valley the only place that is below sea lever here?
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Re: How to get in the 12 sec. class with stock LS1

Originally Posted by 30thTA
How much is it for the TCI SSF 3500 and what are the typical gains in the 1/4 mile? Where to buy it? Are they hard to install? What about labor costs?
try www.fuddleracing.com for a custom tc. labor im told is about $200. gains can be around .2-.6 depending on how aggressive you go with the tc.
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Old 11-06-2005, 07:03 AM
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Re: How to get in the 12 sec. class with stock LS1

00cls1camaross,
Read again. DA (density altitude) was about -350ft not actual altitude of the track. Mason Dixon is +535ft above sea level.
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Old 11-06-2005, 03:13 PM
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Re: How to get in the 12 sec. class with stock LS1

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This may seems like a crazy question but.........How is it that a LS1 M6 is quicker than a LS1 A4 in the 1/4 mile?
Depends on the driver, but 3.42 gears coupled w/a less parasitic drivetrain.
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Old 11-06-2005, 07:48 PM
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Re: How to get in the 12 sec. class with stock LS1

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suspension alone will put you in the 12's no joke. sub frame connectors, and control arms for sure, and then perhaps shock tower brace and pan hard bar etc. engine mods arent required for 12 second passes with a m6, and an auto shouldnt be far behind.
Negative on the strut tower brace. They will actually HURT 1/4 performance. They make the front end more rigid, not allowing it to flex as much. This is good for cornering, but bad for launching. Watch a car with some power take off from the line.. you'll see the one side will lift higher than the other. That's completely natural. If you take away it's ability to do that, you're hurting your launch. Same reason why a lot of people take off their front sway bar too. Lets the front transfer weight more efficiently, and also saves 20 lbs.
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Old 11-08-2005, 09:53 AM
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Re: How to get in the 12 sec. class with stock LS1

I didn't know that a strut tower brace can hurt you in the 1/4 mile? I have a S.T.B. on my car now. I will see next year if it effects my time or not. I have the storage insurance on it right now and I can't drive it until around May.
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Re: How to get in the 12 sec. class with stock LS1

You have to be pretty darn fast before a strut tower brace is going to have a noticable effect on your times. If you do the other suspension mods (SFC, TA, PHB, LCA's with relocation brackets), it will more than make up for any "loss" caused by a STB.
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Old 11-08-2005, 08:41 PM
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Re: How to get in the 12 sec. class with stock LS1

Originally Posted by 00cls1camaross
i have been reading about everyone saying get a converter and a shift kit for the A4... and recomendations for brands and how high the stall should be.
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Yank ST 3800
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B&M 19,000 gvw cooler
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12.15 @ 110 3 years ago.
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Re: How to get in the 12 sec. class with stock LS1

I have seen 2 LS1 cars go 12.30s with the same mods, they are:

Drag radials

Remove front swaybar

Lid

cutout

stall converter(larger one)

Turn off torque management in the ecm

Free mods


One had 3.23 gear, the other had a 3.42 gear

Thas it


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Re: How to get in the 12 sec. class with stock LS1

Actually, it would be a smaller converter.
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Re: How to get in the 12 sec. class with stock LS1

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You have to be pretty darn fast before a strut tower brace is going to have a noticable effect on your times. If you do the other suspension mods (SFC, TA, PHB, LCA's with relocation brackets), it will more than make up for any "loss" caused by a STB.
Well, what would you consider "pretty damn fast?"

I think anyone pulling a 1.7 60' or faster would definitely be wise in removing the front swaybar and NOT having a STB. When you start launching hard, every little bit helps. It only takes a little time difference in the 60' to make up big in the end. That's why it's figured for every .10 seconds you shave off in your 60', it'll net you .20 seconds off in your overall ET.
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Re: How to get in the 12 sec. class with stock LS1

TransGo valve body reprogramming kit

B&M 19,000 gvw cooler

where do you buy this stuff? and what is it purpose?

Is the valve body reprogramming kit called a manual valve body that allows you to sift your car like a manual with out a clutch?

B&M 19,000 gvw cooler... is just a high performance tranny cooler?
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