Bad Mods
01-13-2003, 02:39 AM
#16
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Darien, IL, usa (Chicago W.Suburbs)
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Originally posted by 35thanniv.SS
I never thought of the filter as actually being a mod by its self... Its more like a must that the factory should do. The filter has almost no affect unless you change the lid with it.
I never thought of the filter as actually being a mod by its self... Its more like a must that the factory should do. The filter has almost no affect unless you change the lid with it.
01-13-2003, 07:09 PM
#17
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: St. Paul, MN USA
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I'm not jealous of anybodies 98-99. In fact I wanted a 2002, which is why I sold my 99.
2002 has:
no EGR.
LS6 intake.
5 more rwhp.
radio controls on steering wheel.
Useless mods:
HPP3 on M6's, aftermarket MAFs & Throttle bodies(do it yourself) power pulleys, SLP bellows, SLP air temp tricker, cutout(lost 2rwhp on dyno)
2002 has:
no EGR.
LS6 intake.
5 more rwhp.
radio controls on steering wheel.
Useless mods:
HPP3 on M6's, aftermarket MAFs & Throttle bodies(do it yourself) power pulleys, SLP bellows, SLP air temp tricker, cutout(lost 2rwhp on dyno)
01-13-2003, 10:47 PM
#20
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I may get flamed for this, but I've heard that stall converters are only good for 1/4 mile performance (or any off-the-line performance) but for normal city/daily driving, they're hard on the transmission and fuel mileage because it is allowing a lot more slippage than the stock converter??
I know that everybody who puts one in "loves them", but IMO it's probably 'cause the car is way "snappier" off the line, but can everyone honestly say that they're nice to drive around in the city (revving higher than normal on average?).
FWIW, a transmission shop near me (who installed the shift kit in my '81 Z28) will not install converters into people's cars if they're a stall converter because they get too many complaints afterward that they're not pleasant to drive around. They will order and sell you the converter, but it's your responsibilty to install it. There's gotta be some truth to that
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As far as other bad mods??
I'd have to say stickers
!!!
I know that everybody who puts one in "loves them", but IMO it's probably 'cause the car is way "snappier" off the line, but can everyone honestly say that they're nice to drive around in the city (revving higher than normal on average?).FWIW, a transmission shop near me (who installed the shift kit in my '81 Z28) will not install converters into people's cars if they're a stall converter because they get too many complaints afterward that they're not pleasant to drive around. They will order and sell you the converter, but it's your responsibilty to install it. There's gotta be some truth to that
.As far as other bad mods??
I'd have to say stickers!!!
01-14-2003, 04:53 AM
#23
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Location: Miami, Florida
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now that you mentioned stickers...
there's some guy around miami who truned a v6 camaro (thank god he didn't do it to a z28 or ss) into a rice-mobile. he turned that camaro into a civic practically. he has that big *** useless metal wing... altezas, some UGLY *** body kit, the slp quad pipe, stickers up the wazzooo (i think i saw neon lights IN and UNDER his car... not 100% sure though where the lights were, i was so digusted i was too busy
to remember )... i mean, damn... it's bad enough they do it to cars like civics and stuff.... but when you do it to a camaro, your asking to get smacked. if i ever saw this kid on the street, i'd smack him because i think his mother forgot to, lol
there's some guy around miami who truned a v6 camaro (thank god he didn't do it to a z28 or ss) into a rice-mobile. he turned that camaro into a civic practically. he has that big *** useless metal wing... altezas, some UGLY *** body kit, the slp quad pipe, stickers up the wazzooo (i think i saw neon lights IN and UNDER his car... not 100% sure though where the lights were, i was so digusted i was too busy
to remember )... i mean, damn... it's bad enough they do it to cars like civics and stuff.... but when you do it to a camaro, your asking to get smacked. if i ever saw this kid on the street, i'd smack him because i think his mother forgot to, lol
01-14-2003, 05:23 PM
#26
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Location: Corpus Christi, Texas, US
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Originally posted by robvas
How many regular filters would you have to buy to equal the cost of a K&N Filter?
What about the K&N cleaning/oiling kit?
How many regular filters would you have to buy to equal the cost of a K&N Filter?
What about the K&N cleaning/oiling kit?
01-15-2003, 05:09 PM
#27
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Location: Houston, Texas - Galleria Area
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I would have to say any mufflers. if you dont have long tubes, then you dont need mufflers; just get rid of them...my dynomax mufflers way about 65 pounds each and i just bolt them on for inspection. Also high flow cats...gutted cats dont do anything so high flow ones dont either. shorty headers also...maybe 6 or 8 ponies. Yes i have all of these mods, only because i have to get inspected. 
I have seen camaros with fart cans as well...
also, when I bought my z it had pep boy futura tires...I picked up 9 tenths in my 0-60 alone when i switched to nittos...dont fool yourself, tires are important.
I have seen camaros with fart cans as well...
also, when I bought my z it had pep boy futura tires...I picked up 9 tenths in my 0-60 alone when i switched to nittos...dont fool yourself, tires are important.
01-16-2003, 12:41 AM
#28
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Location: St. Paul, MN USA
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I would have to say any mufflers. if you dont have long tubes, then you dont need mufflers; just get rid of them...my dynomax mufflers way about 65 pounds each and i just bolt them on for inspection. Also high flow cats...
I gained 6RWHP by gutting my cats. For nothing this is a good mod
gutted cats dont do anything so high flow ones dont either.
01-16-2003, 04:30 AM
#30
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Originally posted by psychocabbage
my list would have aftermarket filters such as K&N and Holley and Amsoil..
also on my list would be MAF for people who are not highly modded and not using custom programming or tuning..
any mod that is advertised on tv... like that propeller in your intake..
hehe
my list would have aftermarket filters such as K&N and Holley and Amsoil..
also on my list would be MAF for people who are not highly modded and not using custom programming or tuning..
any mod that is advertised on tv... like that propeller in your intake..
hehe
I agree with that MAF
but i do think the K/N and Holley are good for someone who doesnt want to mod their car and just to have it breathe better however this is a "bad mod" thread so technically they are HORRIBLE mods hehehe