It pushes the pedal back on mine!!

 

It retards timing, and does actually apply some level of ABS braking. It also affects injector pulse timing, and pulse width. Its all in your Tech manual at your local GM dealer. Hell, just turn it off! Even if you turn off the switch, the car will STILL make attempts to correct itself, but to a much lesser degree. Thats why I neglected to order it. I used to work for GM, and I found it to be GM's attempt to add some "exotic" technology to their performance line-up.

 

A gadget (spec: ASR) was ingeniously invented as most people said, but some disagreed, I don’t how which is which, but anyway I believed that trials and demonstrations had subjected this ASR before penetrating “automobile market”.

I feel like saying now that cars with a little lower center of gravity don’t need it! (camaros....etc) , unlike cars with a little higher center of gravity should and must need it …

Am I correct pals..?

 

I think for tha average driver, ASR is a hidden blessing because they either 1) use it as a safety net when merging/turning into traffic (ie keeps the **** of the car in one lane, not 2) or 2) dont really know how to handle a car once it gets into a oversteer situation... ASR prevents that from happening while accelerating.

That said, I am confident enough in my abilities to handle the car in tail in/tail out maneuvers (through a lot of practice in autocrossing ... even if it doesnt produce the best time, at least its fun) that my ASR was a waste of 400 bucks.

IE: If you arent a moron, you arent missing much.

 

And how is that?! Tell me this is only on cars with ASR, because trust me, my car doesn't have ASR, and it's never ONCE made an effort to "correct" a situation I've put it in!!

Also, if ASR truly does apply the brakes, then there must be a separate module or controller tied into the master cylinder that applies the brakes when ASR tells it to. Has anyone with ASR seen this before?? I thought the only difference between ASR / non-ASR cars was the box on the passenger's side that the throttle cable runs to/from then to the throttle body?

 

Yeah, I'd be interested to hear a bit more about that. Somehow I just don't believe what I'm reading...

 

A friend of mine had an Lt1 corvette with ASR, he talked about how great it was, I beleived him so when I ordered my 97' z28 I had to have ASR. What a mistake! Makes you look like an idiot if you forget to turn it off before a race. Yes I bought the (fix) from SLP. But now I have yanked all of that crap off, ASR motor, ABS controller. ASR in my opinion is almost as bad of an idea as the optispark. Well live and learn. when I saw my 2002' Z I almost got aroused at how few options the car had. And there is no way I would have bought another Z with ASR. sorry to ramble but that's just the way I feel about it.

 

The effects are very minimal whl turned off. I think youd have to have an extremely sensitive a$$ to even feel it! Nonetheless, its a rather useless design, IMO. And if you read correctly, I stated that it will make attempts to correct itself even if the switch is TURNED OFF......not, if you dont even have it....I dont think I even came close to implying that non ASR cars did the same as ASR equipped cars....lets not jump the gun, and start reading correctly.

 

Also, SLP makes that little delete thingy for the f bodies, because like I said, it can still activate, even w/o the switch being on. If it didnt, you could just leave the switch off...problem solved. But it doesnt go completely off, hence the SLP fix.

 

I still find it hard to believe that someone would design a system, then add an on/off switch to it but having the switch in the off position would inactivate just part of the system...

It just doesn't make and sense... :blah:

But, since you've worked for GM, I guess you are in the know...

 

Heck, I dont even know what GM is thinking half the time anyway! I think that more people like us should work, and design for them. But then, every car would have 400 horses, and get 6 mpg....Just think.....LS6 cavalier! woo hoo! look out domestic ricers! lol Im done w/ the topic. Thanks guys!

 

Its called Torque management, its in the PCM.
Don't know a whole lot about it. Try a search.
Personally I like ASR. Saves your *** in the rain.
Snow it can be a bitch but good when you know
how/when to use it.
I can't/won't drive 110% on the street anyway
so if it saves my car just one time its worth it.
My .02

 

AFAIK, torque management is in place to save the driveline by momentarily retarding the timing at, or just before a shift so that the transmission doesn't get roasted with a full ~350 HP / ~350 TQ (or whatever the #'s are)..........maybe I'm wrong though? I didn't think it was part of traction control.

As far as driving in the rain / snow? I've made it through 2 winters with my car and stayed between the lines on the road. Sure the back end can go squirrelly really easy, but you just gotta know how to react and deal with it. Even up here in Canada where snow is a regular part of winter, you wouldn't believe how many people get into accidents in the smallest amount of snow. It really blows my mind. I'm certainly not the best driver out there, but I'd rather have full control over my car, and not let the computer compensate where I'm lacking. If that's the case, I'd get a FWD car!

 

I hear you but its a little trickier pulling out
when the roads are covered with M6 3:42.
Plus with the hills I have to deal with I can't
just coast all the time.

 

very enlightening; but you see...no one is really being declared a winer with voicing opinions and when I see one opinion don't coincide with the other then...this is democracy and this everybody needs.

But foremost, I am thankful and ever grateful for these many correspondence I got from you guys. Makes me healthy. Makes me feel good and refreshed.

do understand that more is coming to you for substantiation; more are coming to be adduced for more enlightening facts .

thanks all