Since you are asking yourself the question it obvious that you aren't too impressed with your Camaro. I say get the Notchback and throw a 351W in it that you get from a junkyard out of an old Bronco. You will have the same CID as the Camaro, be lighter, and won't have to spin it to the moon like the 302.

 

Dont get me wrong. I love my z28 more than anything.

I'm not too impressed with my track times though: 16.1, 15.2, 14.9

But that was my fault, I dont know how to shift very well yet kept lighten up the tires for the first 1/4 of the track.

Heres a video for your viewing pleasure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj3Qa3_YHu0

Anyway, I'm comin from the Jeep world and built up a nice rig that would handle most stuff. It was an ongoing project and it turned out real good.

In my mind I'm thinkin I can sell the camaro for around 6800-7, what I bought it for. Then buy a fox for around 4000. Then do the complete trick flow kit for $2000. New heads, cam, intake, gaskets. And have a pretty well rebuilt engine with all new parts. Throw on a nice CAI, and a good exhuast with a cutout (and whatever else the previos owner had on it, hard to find them stock these days), and ill be around 330 hp or so with a real light car for around $6500.

Seems like a fox would be comparable to a jeep. Unrefined, but easy to work on, and I can just beat the hell out of it.

From my understanding the LT1s dont last very long up in the high mileage. But I could be wrong.

I constantly see fox's with 140K+

Still just pondering the idea. I've only had the camaro for 6 months, and I don tknow if i'm ready to give her up.

 

The very first thing I recommend is to work on your driving skills. ET is all about shifting when you have a manual transmission. Most LT1s of your vintage are between 13.9-14.1 stock. My '94, the first year I raced it with just headers, cold air, and drag radials would consistently run between 13.5-13.6 at around 100-101.

 

my camaro has 150k on it, and runs 13.7's on sticky tires. It gets beat every day too, and still runs fine. Just have to inspect it a little more thouroughly, and do preventative maitenance

 

There are plenty of LT1 motors that are pushing over a 100K and are alive to tell the tale. My motor has almost a 100K and it is showing no signs of quitting anytime soon. It definitely sounds like you need some work with your driving skills. By getting another car, that won't fix that problem. Keep practicing and your times will improve.

 

I believe it was Super Chevy who recently quelled that arguement when they had a shop build a Gen 1 engine and an LSx engine based off parts they could get that were as close to the same as possible. They were within a couple hundred dollars of each other and made nearly the same power. The biggest difference they said is the Gen 1 engine ended up not nearly as street friendly as the LSx motor.

 

....1000 for 270?...i made 270 with 165k miles on a stock 93' automatic. it was repeated across 3 different dynos. and i mean BONE stock.

 

Its pretty out of the ordinary for a bone stock LT1 with an automatic tranny to dyno those kind of numbers. For us less fortunate LT1 owners, we have to spend a grand on bolt-ons to get those kind of numbers.

 

eh, im in florida, so maybe the DA helps out...even though its not all that great even though we are at sea level.

long tubes, 1.6RR's, and a 150 shot put me right at 462/480. guess im just "blessed" lol

 

Maybe I should move to Florida then.

 

thats ok, we figured out how to get all you snow birds to leave...tear down the hotels and put up condos you cant afford. i dunno though, couldnt hurt to have some gear head snow birds.

 

Found a video on anti-rice.com (I'm a member on there) of a guy who just recently dyno'd his Fox body, all I have to say is ouch!

http://anti-rice.com/smf/index.php?topic=22096.0

 

ouch my factory rated v6 ran low 15s stock, and mid to high 14s with free mods. That mustang is a dog.


I am hoping to maybe buy a 5.0 today, just me and this guy can never seem to get together on it and make the deal.

 

I agree, but dyno numbers dont mean very much to me anymore. Full bolt-ons, minus gear, netted me 262rwhp/297rwtq 104mph traps. This is on a Mustang Dyno (from what I see on this site, most dyno numbers seem abnormally high which equals Dynojet Dyno to me since no one really specifies anymore). With that combo I pulled a stock 96 Corvette Grand Sport with ease and similarly quick cars much the same. My current setup got me to 330rwhp/315rwtq, drives like stock and runs like a 110-113mph-er. I lose faith in consistency among my car and others and their numbers to quantify performance. A properly running full-bolt on LT1 car with a gear out back should hit 12.90's considering at least decent driving skill.

 

You need the DRIVER mod, not more power!!! Dude, I've got a buddy (member on this board) who drove his bone-stock '97 Z28 to a 13.7 @ 100 . Sorry, he's got a shifter in it . You need to learn to race first, before you need a "12-second car" ... because all you'll have is a 12-second car with a 14-second driver . This isn't meant to flame you, just saying that you have a car capable of 13's, and you barely got out of the 15's ... practise the launch, and shifting!!