twin turbo or supercharger
Re: twin turbo or supercharger
TT: more hp/boost potential, LOTS more $$$ and complications. It would basically be a "custom" job. Cost a small fortune to have it done or you could DIY if you have a fully equipped shop and mega fabrication skills. Just my 2 cents.
Rich
Rich
Re: twin turbo or supercharger
I'd take the turbo any day.. when you're just driving around normally (which, for most people, is honestly most of the time) the turbo is along for the ride, it isnt really doing anything, not putting any stress on anything... blower is always there
Re: twin turbo or supercharger
Originally Posted by 5.0THIS
it isnt really doing anything, not putting any stress on anything... blower is always there 

But I don't know much about FI, take what I say with a grain of salt.
Re: twin turbo or supercharger
Originally Posted by engineermike
With a bypass valve, the supercharger freewheels at idle and cruise, just like a turbo. They don't make boost until you get past 3/4 throttle or so.
Re: twin turbo or supercharger
The bypass valve allows air to recirculate from the discharge to the inlet of the blower at idle and cruise. This keeps the load off of it. It basically spins with no load, just like a turbo.
Mike
Mike
Re: twin turbo or supercharger
A blower should not produce enough boost at idle/cruise to overcome the vacuum generated by the engine. Unless you cruise at WOT. 
I disagree with the statement that a supercharger produces no load on the engine at cruise/idle, the simple fact that the supercharger is constantly spinning is enough to produce at least some load on the engine. The bypass is simply there to keep compressed air from backing up and damaging the supercharger when the throttle blades are not open.

I disagree with the statement that a supercharger produces no load on the engine at cruise/idle, the simple fact that the supercharger is constantly spinning is enough to produce at least some load on the engine. The bypass is simply there to keep compressed air from backing up and damaging the supercharger when the throttle blades are not open.
Re: twin turbo or supercharger
I agree with 97WS6. Just like a bypass valve on a turbo, it's not really there to make the turbo useless unless it's at WOT. I'd go with a supercharger all the way, turbos are for 4 bangers. (And Lingenfelter)
Plus, a big turbo has turbo lag. I know it's not much anymore, but I like superchargers better anyway. Who says you have to get a big one? A little extra boost never hurt anyone, and if you're going to go overboard, make sure you beef up your internals.
Turbos are great if you know how to tune them. But a blower is easy, it just sits there and does it's thing. All in all, it's up to you buddy. Just have fun with it.
~Paul~
Plus, a big turbo has turbo lag. I know it's not much anymore, but I like superchargers better anyway. Who says you have to get a big one? A little extra boost never hurt anyone, and if you're going to go overboard, make sure you beef up your internals.
Turbos are great if you know how to tune them. But a blower is easy, it just sits there and does it's thing. All in all, it's up to you buddy. Just have fun with it.
~Paul~
Re: twin turbo or supercharger
I would say superchargers are better for a daily driven application.
Superchargers aren't exactly 'no load' at idle/cruise. They still blow just as much air at 1/2 throttle as they do at WOT since its tied directly to the crank. The extra air that the supercharger generates at part throttle operation is just blown off via the bleed valve. When you stick you're foot in it, the bleed valve closes based on manifold pressure allowing the SC to build positive manifold pressure. As was also stated, the bleed valve also prevents a pressure backwash into the supercharger.
Turbo does pretty much the same thing. The biggest difference is that a turbo is driven from waste exhaust gas, where a supercharger will rob some power from the crank. Supercharger kits are readily available, and are not all that hard to install. Turbo kits aren't so readily available and require some tools and time to get installed.
Both definately require tuning and you must definately consider fuel delivery requirements.
Superchargers aren't exactly 'no load' at idle/cruise. They still blow just as much air at 1/2 throttle as they do at WOT since its tied directly to the crank. The extra air that the supercharger generates at part throttle operation is just blown off via the bleed valve. When you stick you're foot in it, the bleed valve closes based on manifold pressure allowing the SC to build positive manifold pressure. As was also stated, the bleed valve also prevents a pressure backwash into the supercharger.
Turbo does pretty much the same thing. The biggest difference is that a turbo is driven from waste exhaust gas, where a supercharger will rob some power from the crank. Supercharger kits are readily available, and are not all that hard to install. Turbo kits aren't so readily available and require some tools and time to get installed.
Both definately require tuning and you must definately consider fuel delivery requirements.


