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Old Dec 26, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by F8L Z71
You purposely said CARS!! Grrrrrr LOL

hehe You are one of the quicker STS vehicles as far as I know, so I should have said STS vehicles
Old Dec 27, 2004 | 08:19 AM
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Out of curiosity, what are the STS cars running? How about STS owners post up some times
Just for the record, and no offense to Jose, but besides 2 customers that havent produced timeslips (none that I have seen anyway), PTK hasnt had an fbody customers showing track times. I remember Jose conveying the info to us, but it would be nice to see a slip or video in person.

How about we start a thread that asks for track times for turbo cars only. You'll have a bunch of guys with STS cars replying, nobody with PTK replying (unless Jose does it), and possibly a few TTi replies.

Oh, and for the record, if PTK's price is right i will get the hotparts from them, but I know what an STS car can do and I respect them.
Old Dec 27, 2004 | 08:37 AM
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I totally agree realquick. PTK hasnt posted the results, STS has at this point. STS has made a lot of kits and sold quite a few of them. So far so good, right?

Most of us now know advantages/disadvantages, and we need to keep control of that.

Now that I'm snowed in up here there is no chance of making it out till spring - another 3 months away (and I havent driven my car since July of 03!) but hey, that's just how things go.

I've been a strong supporter of a fbody track day or dyno day and let the boosted cars get at it. Maybe come spring we'll get that chance. Might as well let it sit till then... well... atleast us folks up north.

But as a PTK/Custom myself, I have to say I'm a bit biased.
Old Dec 27, 2004 | 08:55 AM
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I totally agree realquick. PTK hasnt posted the results, STS has at this point. STS has made a lot of kits and sold quite a few of them. So far so good, right?

Most of us now know advantages/disadvantages, and we need to keep control of that.

Now that I'm snowed in up here there is no chance of making it out till spring - another 3 months away (and I havent driven my car since July of 03!) but hey, that's just how things go.

I've been a strong supporter of a fbody track day or dyno day and let the boosted cars get at it. Maybe come spring we'll get that chance. Might as well let it sit till then... well... atleast us folks up north.

But as a PTK/Custom myself, I have to say I'm a bit biased.
I am in MA, just finished snow blowing 8" of snow about ~3 hours ago Like I said, I am going to go front mount for sure (most likely PTK hotparts with the Precision T76 I already have), but some poeple on here like 5.0this always try & take shots at STS whenever possible.
Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:21 AM
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ok...saw a ls1 put one on. Went 12.2 with bolt ons and stock converter/stock gears on a 1.7 60'. Put on sts kit..no other change. Best pass was a 12.7 on a 2.3 60'. The only change to the car was the addition of the turbo. It picked up 100 dyno hp and over 100 dyno tq...by 6200(I think) the NA power curved passed the STS curve as it was falling like a brick. It picked up 3mph over the bolt on mph.

PTK has the fastest lt1 boosted f-body out here. 8.3 at 165 or something like that.

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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 95Bird
ok...saw a ls1 put one on. Went 12.2 with bolt ons and stock converter/stock gears on a 1.7 60'. Put on sts kit..no other change. Best pass was a 12.7 on a 2.3 60'. The only change to the car was the addition of the turbo. It picked up 100 dyno hp and over 100 dyno tq...by 6200(I think) the NA power curved passed the STS curve as it was falling like a brick. It picked up 3mph over the bolt on mph.

PTK has the fastest lt1 boosted f-body out here. 8.3 at 165 or something like that.
Sounds to me like the guy's sts needed tuning, not to mention he lost .6 in the 60' due to his launch which translates to an easy ~.9 in the 1/4. I saw one 03 cobra trap 108 stock, so they are all slow...????? Its kind of hard to lose ET with atleast 100rwhp/100rwtq when comparing the STS to N/A. Before anyone says the STS is too peaky, and area under the curve...look at any dyno of an LS1 before and after the STS install. Area under the curve is way more with the STS system.
I have taken a ride in 2. A relatively stock T/A with 4.5psi (which felt as fast as my heads/cam LT1, and its track times proved to be the same) and Purevil's 630rwhp 10 psi monster. his sts kit got his car moving.
As far as PTK's fastest FI fbody, are you gonna run into him on the street? I know mustang guys are loving the PTK stuff, and like I said before, i am probably going to use a PTK hot parts kit. However, just because Jose lists two customers that dont show slips/dyno numbers to us or Jose for that matter (he could post them if they did), it just shows you which kits you will be more likely to see. I am hoping people post PTK stuff soon. Perhaps Jose has shown slips, I havent seen them to my knowledge. I would just like to see more results from people on the boards.
As far as STS dyno curves, I have seen purevil's dyno when it was tuned on 10psi. Its a nice compromise between a blower and front mount. It makes peak torque/boost before the blower, but after a front mount. However, in lots of cases with some of the high powered fbodies on this site and others, his rear mount actually peaks the same as some front mounts. I believe in general though, thats not going to be the case for most others.
For those that want more power and torque then a typical off the shelf S/C (like a D1 or S/T trim) then STS is a great, clean kit.
Old Dec 27, 2004 | 11:14 AM
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Right here 11.6 @120 on stock heads cam and 2.0 60'. No it wasn't set up at the time to boost off the line, but this was a little while ago now.

JLTurbo 11.6 run

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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 11:44 AM
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I think it would be a REALLY great idea for 5.0 THIS to start his OWN thread about STS questions for the simple fact it could POSSIBLY keep him from fawking up and derailing other STS inquiring threads, just like we see here. Its getting REAL old...hell, the thread starter for this thread even politely asked him to not post but what happens? He asks a question in this thread that has NOTHING to do with the original question.... nothing new.
Old Dec 27, 2004 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LukeZ28
Right here 11.6 @120 on stock heads cam and 2.0 60'. No it wasn't set up at the time to boost off the line, but this was a little while ago now.

JLTurbo 11.6 run
Nice numbers. Your were doing as well as a guy from this site:

http://www.turbomustangs.com/forums/...ght=Cam+Motion

There was a guy with a LS1 TTi system and a turbo cam and only ran an 11.3 @ 120mph with 6 speed. I am not trashing this guy at all, I just wanted to mention it. I know the TTi street kit has log design on one side, but it goes to show you that not all front mounts are better than the STS kit.
Old Dec 27, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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Yeah the 11.6 was stock heads and stock cam and very poor converter, not built for all the power. This was before the heads/cam, FMIC, and Pro Yank converter. Track reopens Jan 8 so new times will be up very soon.
Old Dec 27, 2004 | 03:09 PM
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Logs suck End of story.

That 11.6 run - there's more in there. That 2.0' 60ft really kills the car, but you can see it just zip down the track. Looks a lot slower then it is. Good to see it go...

I'll post my results in the spring... but STS sells, gotta give it that. As long as we stay faster then the imports, I think we're good, no matter how we get there.
Old Dec 27, 2004 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Avengeance
I think it would be a REALLY great idea for 5.0 THIS to start his OWN thread about STS questions for the simple fact it could POSSIBLY keep him from fawking up and derailing other STS inquiring threads, just like we see here. Its getting REAL old...hell, the thread starter for this thread even politely asked him to not post but what happens? He asks a question in this thread that has NOTHING to do with the original question.... nothing new.
Originally Posted by RealQuick
but some poeple on here like 5.0this always try & take shots at STS whenever possible.

Wow, I cant even ask a question in here without you to jumping on me. Funny, neither of you jumped on the other guy that asked the same ****ing question!!!!!!!!! I asked it again because no STS owners were posting times.


Avengeance, feel free to shut the **** up anytime you stupid newbie. I already PMed you to keep it out of this thread, so I suggest you do the same if you have any further issues with me. OR by all means, hit me up on AIM.

Now, back to the regularly scheduled topic thank you LukeZ28 for posting your times, thats all I wanted to see. Nice times BTW, those are the quickest posted times for an STS car that I've seen yet.
Old Dec 27, 2004 | 03:21 PM
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Logs suck End of story.

That 11.6 run - there's more in there. That 2.0' 60ft really kills the car, but you can see it just zip down the track. Looks a lot slower then it is. Good to see it go...

I'll post my results in the spring... but STS sells, gotta give it that. As long as we stay faster then the imports, I think we're good, no matter how we get there.
Can you tell me a little more about your setup? I plan on running a 383 with T76 front mount. Looking for 700rwhp w/15psi on pump gas. I am still up in the air about a cam. Cam Motion recommended one, but it seems a tad small.

5.0this - I mentioned you because I always see you in these threads.
Old Dec 27, 2004 | 03:43 PM
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Sent PM to keep from hijacking this thread
Old Dec 27, 2004 | 05:26 PM
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I'll have my PTK kit in a few weeks, so hopefully I'll be able to post some numbers soon with my LT1.

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