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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 02:34 AM
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Somebody explain what happens when I turn up the timing retard???

I don't really know exactly how it works. I have the crane Hi-6r and I have it set right now at around 18*. What do people usually have it at? What does the red light mean when it goes on? Does it usually go on? I just need to be laced up on some "timing game." Thanks.
Old Feb 19, 2003 | 08:29 AM
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Re: Somebody explain what happens when I turn up the timing retard???

Originally posted by 96 WS6
I don't really know exactly how it works. I have the crane Hi-6r and I have it set right now at around 18*. What do people usually have it at? What does the red light mean when it goes on? Does it usually go on? I just need to be laced up on some "timing game." Thanks.
Right now I think you have it set to pull way to much timing. The way I understand them to work is that they pull timing per pound of boost. For example, right now you have it set to pull 18* so that means when you hit 1# of bost your having your timing being restarted be 18* and when you hit 2# of boost your taking away 36* of timing and it goes up from there.
I think you said you were running the 6# pulley so I would set it at like 2 or 3 degrees of timing restard and if you get detonation I would go up from there.
Old Feb 19, 2003 | 09:18 AM
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the Boost Timing Module - has 2 scales on it - depending on how it has been wired up.
In scale - the 0-20(i think) is a flat numbers of drgrees or retard that twill be put in at all levels of boost

the other scale - which you may or may not see depending on model - runs from 0-5 and removes boost in a progressive mannet - ie if set on 2 it will remove 2 degrees at 1# of boost, 6 degrees @ 3# and 12 dgrees at 6#.

this latter set up work best for our applications.

Note the 2 scales overlap each other so if you set it at the end value 20(?) then that would be 5 using the progressive scale and 10 would be 2.5.

I usually have mine set up to remove 1.5degrees per # of boost.

The red light means that the BTM has been notified that there is boost present and is applying retard.
Old Feb 19, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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Well how is mine set up then? I'm even more confused now... I wired it just like the Vortech manual illustrated in the wiring diagram. Am I pulling 18* total or 3* per pound of boost?

Also, the light means its retarding timing and that the MAP sensor is detecting boost? It doesn't mean that it is pulling timing as a result of knock, just that it is pulling timing in boost?
Old Feb 20, 2003 | 12:33 AM
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it has nothing to do with knock - your pulling timing in response to boost and I'll bet it's pulling it progressively as I laid out.

that is 3 pre# of boost - if you were pulling 18 per pound the car would die
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