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Old May 16, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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mig produces spatter no matter what,
If you and rodriguez are concerned with the spatter on the floor then use tig. If you dont care about spatter on the floor and just want a nice clean work piece with NO spatter on it then use gas shield mig.

Comparing TIG to soldering is a joke, with tig, the workpeice, as well as the filler metal is all melted, soldering only melts the filler metal (solder) TIG is most like oxy/acet. welding more than anything else.
It was an analogy to show that you heat the piece up seperately and then add the metal filler for the weld. Similar to soldering. Arc and mig welding you cant heat up an area without laying metal down. Get it now?
Old May 16, 2005 | 04:15 PM
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RealQuick, Im trying to help Will out as I have been in his shoes. Because your using slang and making up your own definitions thats not our fault! Like Will mentioned mig spatters NO MATTER WHAT!. There are ways to minimize it but it goes to spatter. I do MIG/TIG/OXY/Plasma and own all 4 forms! Now if you used a TIG you would truly see what I mean when I say no spatter! Ask any welder and he will say to master OXY before you master the art of TIG. For will I was recommending a solid roller so he could rev it higher, its not a matter of will it work, its a matter of is it ideal? But the word ideal is subjective, for him he may want a complete street car and the word solid means limited idle and higher maintenance.


Originally Posted by will62085
mig produces spatter no matter what, and what you are talking about as far as the liquified metal connecting the arc to the metal is called "spray arc" welding, and canonly be done with very high amps, and very high volts. the most common MIG welding is "short arc" where the wire actually touches the workpiece and creates a short cicuit condition, and mets the filler metal, as well as the surrounding work peice.

Comparing TIG to soldering is a joke, with tig, the workpeice, as well as the filler metal is all melted, soldering only melts the filler metal (solder) TIG is most like oxy/acet. welding more than anything else.

the t-70's should spool under 4k rpm, and when shifting at 6800 rpm, i wont ever be under 4k rpm, so i see no need to go solid roller setup. The t-70 is still a small frame t4 turbo, and spools almost identical to a pt-61...as far as suspension, you are correct, thats gonna be a whole challenge all in itself
Old May 16, 2005 | 04:24 PM
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Soldering and Tig welding are similar? Have you ever used a TIG? I use TIG when a TIG is warranted, there are two different processes for two different things. To say that ones used when I dont want spatter on the floor is just plain stupid.

Originally Posted by RealQuick
If you and rodriguez are concerned with the spatter on the floor then use tig. If you dont care about spatter on the floor and just want a nice clean work piece with NO spatter on it then use gas shield mig.



It was an analogy to show that you heat the piece up seperately and then add the metal filler for the weld. Similar to soldering. Arc and mig welding you cant heat up an area without laying metal down. Get it now?
Old May 16, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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well...to be more clear, flux core produces more spatter than true mig with gas shielding, any tig produces no spatter...but both forms of mig do, although with gas it is much less
Old May 16, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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Exactly.

Originally Posted by will62085
well...to be more clear, flux core produces more spatter than true mig with gas shielding, any tig produces no spatter...but both forms of mig do, although with gas it is much less
Old May 16, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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One time Rodrigues splattered me in the face...and then we left my bedroom and went out and welded some stuff.
Old May 16, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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But I didn't get any "spatter" on your hands... but its still spatter correct?

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One time Rodrigues splattered me in the face...and then we left my bedroom and went out and welded some stuff.
Old May 16, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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But I didn't get any "spatter" on your hands... but its still spatter correct?
haha...okay too much info...
Old May 16, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Rodrigues
Soldering and Tig welding are similar? Have you ever used a TIG? I use TIG when a TIG is warranted, there are two different processes for two different things. To say that ones used when I dont want spatter on the floor is just plain stupid.
My point all along is that Mig with gas creates zero spatter on the work piece from my experience. Flux core wire welders leave spatter all over the place on the work part, which looks ugly. Obviously with tig there is no spatter. As far as slang??? We have different definitions of spatter. I am not worried about whats on the floor after I lay a bead. I am more worried about how the piece looks.
Old May 17, 2005 | 12:13 PM
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And TIG makes a high quality weld

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My point all along is that Mig with gas creates zero spatter on the work piece from my experience. Flux core wire welders leave spatter all over the place on the work part, which looks ugly. Obviously with tig there is no spatter. As far as slang??? We have different definitions of spatter. I am not worried about whats on the floor after I lay a bead. I am more worried about how the piece looks.
Old May 17, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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And TIG makes a high quality weld
Without question it is the highest quality type of welding out of the three (arc, mig, tig).
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