Im looking into turbo charging my car. Ive read a lot of the posts in the forced induction section but I'd like to find out alittle bit more for my turbo application.

To be on the safe side I'd run no more than 5 lbs of boost.
My car has the stock bottom end but a beefed up drivetrain.
My heads are stock but i have a cc305 cam with 1.6rr.
To my understanding this cam isnt well suited for boost.?
How much power can be expected from 5 lbs of boost.
My car currently makes about 330wrhp and 340 torque.

The turbo set up is a rear mount turbo. It mounts where the ypipe is at. For more info on it check out badrap.
http://forums.badrap.net/thread.php?...1655&boardid=8

I'd do injectors and fuel pump with the set up too. Any advice you can give me would be great.

This is what the manufacturer had to say about this turbo set up.
"Guys here is the info I received from Rick @ STS.

Water cracking the turbo - no chance. Our turbo doesn't even get that hot-about 500F cooler than under hood setup. The engineers at Garrett just laughed when I asked them this. They said, have you seen the twin turbo vette? Or the new Porsches? All are running turbos mounted down where they hit the water and dirt.

Hydralock - Even if water gets on the air filter the air will just pass through a dry part of the filter. In wet weather conditions you can't put your foot in it anyway. This setup is hairy on dry ground. We run a precharger on the filter to deflect any splashing water off of the filter. We drive these LT1's here in all types of weather without any problems. Even if you sucked some water in, it would just dissapate along the bottom of the pipes until it evaporated. The engine isn't going to suck any considerable amount through the turbo and up and over the rear axle and all the way to the engine compartment and up into the throttle body. Well, I suppose if you redlined it in neutral and backed it into the lake it could.

Ground clearance- all of our parts are at least as high as any of the OE equipment on the car. I have cringed a few times driving thinking "is it going to hit the turbo?" but have never hit it on anything and nobody else has either.

Heating up the gas tank- No we tested that too.

Turbo Lag- We get full boost before 3000 rpm and that is up here at nose bleed city. They should run way better where you are. It's not like it is a honda civic. Has a crapload of torque out of the hole even without the turbo. If you have an automatic you can stall up and get boost right off the line. A clutch will also load the turbo fast out of the hole. Our cars spin the tires out of the hole, barely hook and the boost blows them out again, then second gear breaks them loose as well.

Reliability- we are obviously still young on the LT1 kit but we have really had no problems with the basic kit. The cars run and drive like it stock and sound real nice. But when the boost comes on, Oh yeah baby!

I'll do my best to help with any other questions. But seriously, these kits work really well.

Our 93 has picked up 20 mph in the 1/4 mile and dropped almost 3 seconds just on drag radials. Still drives like a stock car and gets great mileage (2.73 gears help). Nice and easy to work under the hood as it has more room than stock. This car is running higher boost as we put turbo pistons in, LS1 rods, Oring headgaskets with good bolts, 1.6:1 roller rockers, 2200 stall and shift kit. Everything else is stock. We are playing with fuel system and with methanol injection but as of now injectors and pump are still stock with stock ECM. That is where you come in to help!

Kit should install in less than 3 hours and come back off without a trace that it was ever there. All mounting utilizes OE mounts and no modifications are necessary to make the kit fit. "

 

I emailed Jeremy, the fbody tuner for us guys in Tampa. He's going to email the links that show the turbo set up.

Ive seen them and the turbo is tucked up at the end of the ypipe... I'll post the pics as soon as i get them.

 

Call me traditional and not open to new things, but I'm going with the turbo mounted up front. Like this:


http://community.webshots.com/photo/...56969866FXAzHc

 

Do these guys have a website? Do you know what the price is after it goes up and is it complete kit? Sounds like a great deal, I've been looking for a turbo kit that is around the same price as a supercharger and this sounds like it might work very well. I could care less where it mounts, as long as it works good

 

http://64.4.46.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_l...hreadid%3d3476


Check out the site... Heres where they go into detail on the turbo setup.

 

Linky notta work for me--got another one

 

this turbo setup has been discussed before in here, with numerous pics of an installed one. search and you should find it. FWIW I wouldnt do it if you have any big goals for power. Waaay too much pipe between the turbo and the TB for my tastes....

 

Do you have a link to that discussion? I cant find it.

What happens if you have a or develop a header leak with a turbocharged engine?

He still got a really high MPH in the 1/4 with a non intercooled turbo at 5 lbs of boost..

New link
http://64.4.46.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_l...hreadid%3d3476

 

Yeah...this has been discussed at a great length. That is STS which is just down the road from me and I was looking into the kit when he first announced it on our local Fbody website: http://www.ufba.org/forum/index.php?...;threadid=3476

Here are the pics: http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...&highlight=sts

Here's another thread on it:
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...&highlight=sts

I went down and took a look at the kit and have a few opinions on it.....first of all, it won't work with me since I have long tubes and the kit is only set up for stock manifolds and it looks like they haven't made any solution for people with anything other than stock manifolds.

Second, the kit does work well....as long as you aren't looking for serious gains on your setup. If you're looking to have a 600+ HP setup, I really don't think this is the kit for you.

Next, high boost.....this kit doesn't have an intercooler and only uses the length of the charge tubing underneath the car to cool the intake charge...this is a concern for me at higher boost levels since the person with the first kit ended up blowing #7, which needed a full rebuild.

Of course you can run water/alky injection which is what Rick suggests for higher boost levels but personally I would just rather run an intercooler and achieve the same or higher boost levels.

As far as I know the kit hasn't been tested at sea level which is much different than running up here at 4400 feet with a DA of anywhere from 7,000-11,000.

Placement....I really wouldn't my turbo sitting out in the open where any Joe Blow with a few spare minutes on his hands can take a costly head unit. I'm sure you can build a custom metal box to go around it to help secure it......but personally, that's not for me.

Pricing....the STS kit costs about the same amount as a PTK kit (depending on which head unit you choose) and IMO the PTK unit is a much better setup which comes with a turbo you would like for your goals, FMU, intercooler, etc....and I haven't really heard anything negative about the PTK setup.

There was one of the cars with the STS setup at the track this weekend but I was working Rescue at the top end so I wasn't able to see what he was running. This was the same car that just went through a rebuild since blowing his motor and he went with 8.7:1 compression and a larger turbo/higher boost.

Really up to you.....read those threads and decide what your eventual goal is. It looks as if you aren't looking for a high HP setup so this may be the kit for you. I would just suggest doing some research and deciding on which kit is best for you.

 

I'm glad you posted Ghost I was wondering about this kit, and since you've seen it I can hear at least one opinion. I don't like the idea of not having an intercooler either-to risky. and having my turbo stolen doesn't sound to great. The only thing that appealed to me was the price, but I thought it was 2600 bucks I'd rather pay extra and get something that works well. Also I noticed you said that it won't work with longtube users, doesn't that PTK come with some type of headers? not the log type or stockers? I 'm very mad that all the Mustang guys get the cheap kits while we're stuck with the priced ones. I guess at least they are finally making them so I can't complain. What about that other guy who was making a turbo kit, he said priced around the same as superchargers, I don't think this is the same guy, it was someone who caught a bunch of slack cause he was making so much power off so little boost, if I remember the thread right. He had other kits available not just for F bodies.

 

The last time I talked to Rick, the kit was going to be $3500....but he was going to do a few prototype's for a bit less.

The PTK kit does come with its own manifolds....so you will be getting rid of any type of conventional header that you have anyway. The STS kit has the charge tube coming up the length of the car and into the intake around the drivers side manifolds. The intake tubing won't fit due to the amount of space LT's take between the block and the wheel well. I just don't like the idea of selling my LT's to just go back to the heavy, restrictive and PITA stock manifolds.

The people who said they were coming out with a kit that is close to the cost of a S/C kit was www.turbolocity.com I haven't heard much from them in a while but am still interested in their kit. Not exactly sure what the hangup is but they should be coming out with the kit very soon.

If you think about it though...the PTK kit isn't much more than a S/C kit. $3499 for the kit and you choose the head unit which will range from just over $700 to $1600.

 

thanks for your help. I guess your right, its not to much more and it does look pretty good. I'd rather spend more and know its not going to have problems- sometimes you get what you pay for!