Ignorance is bliss, and you seem to be misinformed...the numbers show the kit works, whether people like the way it looks is their opinion.....

 

14psi
STS Methanol system
stock cam
stock heads
stock manifolds
8.7 forged pistons
stock crank
stock tranny
stock fuel system

Very simple and straightforward.

BBB

 

Thanks. That really makes me wonder what could happen with further mods. The LT1 heads could flow better, a turbo cam would probably make a WORLD of difference (especially @ 14psi ), better manifolds....
Did he get it tuned to get those numbers, or is that something he can still do?
14 psi. What turbo is he using? I don't imagine the standard one can do that, can it?
It's absolutely amazing what a turbo can do for an engine. I remember when the carbed big block was king of the streets and 500 hp was way more than most people EVER saw.

 

That was with To4e that comes with the kit. The tunning was done with the water/meth kit only on that dyno pull.

 

That thing can hit 14 psi?!?!?! One more reason for me to want one. I wonder where it was on the efficiency map at that point. If you take a turbo too far out of its design parameters, what happens? Does it just reach a point of diminishing returns, or does it heat the air more, or overstress the turbo, or what?
So it's extra fuel only came from the methanol? That's yet another reason for me to want one. I really don't want to buy bigger injectors if I don't need to. I'd rather spend that money on other things like electronics to make it all stay together.

 

I'd still be cautious with the stock injectors. Most people are upping to the 42# injectors with boost like that. I'd be tempted to go to the 50#s with 14psi boost.

 

It does raise the question of altitude. Maybe the only way they were able to get away with that kind of boost with only methanol is because of the heinous elevation here. There is not NEAR the fuel demands here at 4500 ft (7.5 k DA) as there is at sea level. Someone needs ot buy this kit, get crazy with it, and test it at a lower track.

 

I'm at the beach in California and I sent Rick an email (no response after a week). I have a buddy at Chevy High Performance who is interested in an article write-up. I've also got some supporters who will back up the turbo with a cam, dyno, and programming... not sure why he isn't returning my message.

Elevation would make a difference. True vehicle testing would also involve cold tests and hot tests. I'm sure you are capable of the cold tests in Utah. Most manufacturers take there cars to Death Valley for hot test in the Summer.

 

The testing i have been doing has been at sea level ranging from 60s to 90s in temp. 3psi is running rich, but good on the injector duty cycle. High setting 7 psi with water/meth is alot for the stock injectors, but still runs rich midband.
Rick has always been quick with me, you might want to try again.

 

GHETTO!!!!!!!!!! Might as well be sure to pick up the tornado while your at it man Don't listen to them man, spend your money on something else. I know people that got one and they were not pleased at all. Yea they said it worked but it wasn't anywhere near as nice as they were led to believe It's only obvious why they have been putting turbos under the hood for years. BECAUSE ITS BETTER! You don't see top fuel cars running turbos behind the rear tires Yea Im sure it makes the install easier but come on how lazy can you get. You figure if your going to spend that kinda money, might as well just hold out and get a TRUE turbo setup and do it the way it's supposed to be done.

Look at how LONG their description is for their product. It's like they have to try to convince you that their product is better when really it's not that great. Like they are trying to start a cult with that thing or something

 

For me, the entire discussion is a moot point unless it is CARB approved. I've sent emails to proturbokits.com and turbolocity.biz and neither one have plans for a CARB set up. I could fabricate my own, but California will not allow it even if it does have less valve overlap and burn cleaner than stock.

 

Another reason why cali sucks.

 

You won't get any arguement from me. I'm bound here by work at the moment... looking for a transfer.

 

So those hot gasses don't create pressure?
Fascinating.
I learn so much here.

 

its a good thing, cause you have a lot to learn!

I'm not here to waste my time on smart asses, so go do some research on how a "turbine" works.