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Old May 10, 2005 | 11:26 AM
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LM-1: Digital Air/Fuel Ratio Meter ???

looking for feed back on this or something sim...i think this would be good to tune with LT1 Stock pcm.....

LM-1: Digital Air/Fuel Ratio Meter

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/lm1.php

any info would be nice
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Old May 10, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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Excellent piece of equipment. You should be able to get them for a good price now since the LC-1 is coming out.
Old May 10, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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i absolutly love mine

I will never be w/o one again

buy it!
Old May 10, 2005 | 03:02 PM
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Re: LM-1: Digital Air/Fuel Ratio Meter ???

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Excellent piece of equipment. You should be able to get them for a good price now since the LC-1 is coming out.

what is the LC-1

and what V. due you have???? and how are you useing it to tune
Old May 10, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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LM-1 works great here.
Old May 10, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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The coolest, second most useful tool I have ever owned. You can program it to simulate a narrowband and even fool your pcm to run closed loop at an AFR other than stoich.
The LC1 is the non datalogging wb controller/sensor that has 2 analog outputs to control a pcm and drive a meter.
Old May 10, 2005 | 10:32 PM
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Re: LM-1: Digital Air/Fuel Ratio Meter ???

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The coolest, second most useful tool I have ever owned. You can program it to simulate a narrowband and even fool your pcm to run closed loop at an AFR other than stoich.
The LC1 is the non datalogging wb controller/sensor that has 2 analog outputs to control a pcm and drive a meter.

How due you trick the pcm into think close loop and will this work with the stock pcm or is this with dfi
Old May 10, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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The outputs of the LM1 or LC1 are fully programable. You may set up the scale any way you like. You can for instance change the output voltage so that when the pcm sees .45 V, instead of it being 14.7 the afr is 13.8 or 15.2 for mileage. WOT closed loop control is not available for the stock pcm as its designed for a narrow band sensor.

You can demo the software and the manuals are available on the innovate site.
Old May 11, 2005 | 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by mongse_1
Excellent piece of equipment. You should be able to get them for a good price now since the LC-1 is coming out.
whats a good price
Old May 11, 2005 | 03:20 AM
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Works great. We have compared them on the dyno to the high dollar ($1,500-2,500+) units and they are within 0.1 AFR. Wouldn't be without it!

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Old May 11, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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Re: LM-1: Digital Air/Fuel Ratio Meter ???

Originally Posted by Schurters LT1
what is the LC-1

and what V. due you have???? and how are you useing it to tune
LC-1 = http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/x...me.php?cat=253

I have a built-in WB02 w/ my FAST. I also use my ARC dual EGT to my turbo car and my buddy's car. I've used the LM-1 before on a friends car and they're nice. I've also used a TechEdge (think that was it) and it just pissed me off.

I've seen the LM-1s go brand new for $375 w/ inductive clamp, converter & sensor. You can get just the sensor and box for $300 or so if you do some looking.
Old May 12, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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Re: LM-1: Digital Air/Fuel Ratio Meter ???

Originally Posted by markinkc69z
You can program it to simulate a narrowband and even fool your pcm to run closed loop at an AFR other than stoich.
Have you yourself, done this, and make it work?
Originally Posted by markinkc69z
The outputs of the LM1 or LC1 are fully programable. You may set up the scale any way you like. You can for instance change the output voltage so that when the pcm sees .45 V, instead of it being 14.7 the afr is 13.8 or 15.2 for mileage.
Isn't there a little more to it than that? Have you explained the whole procedure?
Originally Posted by markinkc69z
WOT closed loop control is not available for the stock pcm as its designed for a narrow band sensor.
This statement does not make sense to me. The NB O2 sensor would not be the determining factor for WOT CL operation. Please respond.

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Old May 12, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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Re: LM-1: Digital Air/Fuel Ratio Meter ???

You can also get a data logger w/ it that will tell what your a/f is at any rpm. My buddy was using one last Friday at the track and this thing is amazing. For the price, you can't beat it! Another buddy of mine just picked up a AEM windband for just about 50 bucks cheaper than the LM-1. Next on the long list of parts........
Old May 14, 2005 | 12:40 AM
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I am going to get one as soon as i get paid. Do they run gp on these?
Old May 14, 2005 | 09:09 AM
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Not to hijack but does anyone have a www.widebandcommander.com?



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