compression with a 383 and P1SC
compression with a 383 and P1SC
I have a Lunati 383 with flattop pistons with -4cc valve reliefs, I still need to buy the heads/cam. The motor was originally built for alot of nitrous, but I have now come across a good deal on a P1SC and want to get it. It comes with a 9# pully but I would like to get at least 12#'s from the unit. What compression ratio do I need to be shooting for? I was thinking of 76cc AFR's which would give me about 9.6:1 compression. Is that enough? I have read where people are running 8 or 8.5:1 on blower motors. I dont think I can get that low with the pistons I have. I am trying to get around 200-250hp from the power adder, should I just stick with the nitrous or is it possible with the motor I have. BTW I am not worried about "streetablity" this is mostly just for racing. With some occasional weekend trips. I will do some more searches but any insight and knowledge on this would be greatly appreciated. Please let me know if you need any more info on my particular set up.
Clint
Clint
Re: compression with a 383 and P1SC
Originally Posted by CDE
I have a Lunati 383 with flattop pistons with -4cc valve reliefs, I still need to buy the heads/cam. The motor was originally built for alot of nitrous, but I have now come across a good deal on a P1SC and want to get it. It comes with a 9# pully but I would like to get at least 12#'s from the unit. What compression ratio do I need to be shooting for? I was thinking of 76cc AFR's which would give me about 9.6:1 compression. Is that enough? I have read where people are running 8 or 8.5:1 on blower motors. I dont think I can get that low with the pistons I have. I am trying to get around 200-250hp from the power adder, should I just stick with the nitrous or is it possible with the motor I have. BTW I am not worried about "streetablity" this is mostly just for racing. With some occasional weekend trips. I will do some more searches but any insight and knowledge on this would be greatly appreciated. Please let me know if you need any more info on my particular set up.
Clint
Clint
Re: compression with a 383 and P1SC
I run a 383 with D1 @ 12 psi. I shall try 15 psi soon. I currently run a 54cc chamber afr 190 head. I also have
-28cc JE pistons. 9.5:1 compression. Works good, but I purchased a large Spearco intercooler. The intercooler is critical. I had a p600b. The D1 spins up much faster.
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97 383 M6 ATI-D1 Msd 72#/hr with LT1edit+Acceleronics drive and dual walbro 255 lpr
-28cc JE pistons. 9.5:1 compression. Works good, but I purchased a large Spearco intercooler. The intercooler is critical. I had a p600b. The D1 spins up much faster.
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97 383 M6 ATI-D1 Msd 72#/hr with LT1edit+Acceleronics drive and dual walbro 255 lpr
Re: compression with a 383 and P1SC
hey guys-
good thread... i'm at this stage also.
so what would be the greatest cr one can run w/ race fuel and the P1?
i'm confused... i too have a 383 with flats but 55cc heads putting me at about 11.5.
funny thing was i ran a V1 with S impeller and a wet nos to a 10.34.
could it be the addl fuel from the nos and perhaps my cam that helped prevent detenation?
the cam is 232/242 duration 510/525 on 110 sep with int c/l @ 106.
thanks- doug
good thread... i'm at this stage also.
so what would be the greatest cr one can run w/ race fuel and the P1?
i'm confused... i too have a 383 with flats but 55cc heads putting me at about 11.5.
funny thing was i ran a V1 with S impeller and a wet nos to a 10.34.
could it be the addl fuel from the nos and perhaps my cam that helped prevent detenation?
the cam is 232/242 duration 510/525 on 110 sep with int c/l @ 106.
thanks- doug
Re: compression with a 383 and P1SC
Well it doesnt sound like much of a deal anymore. If I have to upgrade the head and intercooler I would not be gaining anything. I guess I will just have to either stick with nitrous or save up for a D kit.
Re: compression with a 383 and P1SC
Originally Posted by chimpy
hey guys-
good thread... i'm at this stage also.
so what would be the greatest cr one can run w/ race fuel and the P1?
i'm confused... i too have a 383 with flats but 55cc heads putting me at about 11.5.
funny thing was i ran a V1 with S impeller and a wet nos to a 10.34.
could it be the addl fuel from the nos and perhaps my cam that helped prevent detenation?
the cam is 232/242 duration 510/525 on 110 sep with int c/l @ 106.
thanks- doug
good thread... i'm at this stage also.
so what would be the greatest cr one can run w/ race fuel and the P1?
i'm confused... i too have a 383 with flats but 55cc heads putting me at about 11.5.
funny thing was i ran a V1 with S impeller and a wet nos to a 10.34.
could it be the addl fuel from the nos and perhaps my cam that helped prevent detenation?
the cam is 232/242 duration 510/525 on 110 sep with int c/l @ 106.
thanks- doug
Re: compression with a 383 and P1SC
yep you're right... it is not a blower cam. it did much better with a progessive two stage nos, 10.02. i think that is what allowed me to run the sc w/ such high cr. lotta overlap in the cam allowed for pressure to escape. just was wondering... i sold off the V1 but picked up the P1 for a good price so i was trying to incorporate a blower again. looks like a tear down is in order new pistons and cam.
later-
doug
later-
doug
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