Forced Induction Supercharger/Turbocharger

Blown SC motor - need rebuild advice! - 450hp target

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-15-2007, 01:26 PM
  #16  
Registered User
 
neal38's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 6
i'd also o-ring the block with receiver groove in the heads......maybe the splayed four bolt main caps.....stronger is a good thing when we all get greedy
neal38 is offline  
Old 09-15-2007, 09:16 PM
  #17  
Registered User
 
byrons1502's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: northern indiana
Posts: 579
the stock blocks and carnk are good for around 550 to 600 flywheel horsepower. there are a lot of people that are doing more. but that is a safe high end i would push. the 383 kit is a great kit that you will enjoy. either cam would work
byrons1502 is offline  
Old 09-15-2007, 10:27 PM
  #18  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
real82it's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 32
Originally Posted by Boosted_Z28
You may want to check with Procharger regarding the P600-B as it will be more difficult to make the kind of boost you want with a 383.
Yea, I may drop a little boost but I can't afford to upgrade to the D1SC - especially after this rebuild - I may drop down 1lb - 2lbs.
real82it is offline  
Old 09-15-2007, 10:32 PM
  #19  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
real82it's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 32
Originally Posted by real82it
I called comp cams - they suggested I go with


Comp Cams: 584/579, 242/248, 113 lsa
How steetable do you think this cam will be - I run a 2800 stall converter. I want something that makes good power down low - and i dont want to have wind it up past ~6300. Anyone have experience with a cam this size?
real82it is offline  
Old 09-17-2007, 12:55 PM
  #20  
Registered User
 
DarkHorse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Akron, Ohio
Posts: 1,433
See my cardomain site - made 440/475 with issues on 7lbs of boost. Stock bottom end, GTP 4 camshaft, stock untouched heads, bolt ons.
DarkHorse is offline  
Old 09-17-2007, 03:08 PM
  #21  
Registered User
 
HardcoreRM125's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Pgh, PA
Posts: 2,628
That cam is definatly going to want more stall, will lope hard, and will probably surge pretty good. Definatly would have to wind it higher than 6300 on a 350. A 383 will eat up some of the RPM's but Id imagine that still would have to go to at least 6500ish on a 383.
HardcoreRM125 is offline  
Old 05-04-2008, 12:06 AM
  #22  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
real82it's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 32
Well, I can't believe it was 9/07 when I started down this road -- but I FINALLY finished the motor, broke it in, tuned it myself (taught myself how to do it....with a lot of help from folks online...), and dyno'd it today:

449RWHP and 468RWTQ!!

I started with a target of 450HP - that is about as close as it gets!!

This thing is a blast to drive!!! Car actually has very good manners on the road - But I CANT stick it to the ground - time to get a set of drag radials!!

Here is my final build/change summary:
SCAT 4340 Forged Crank
SCAT 6" H Beam Rods
JE Forged 170817 Pistons - ~9.5.1 compression
Total Seal rings
Comp Cams 576/570, 230/236, 113 lsa
Comp Cams lifters
Comp springs
Canton pan
Summit 58mm throttle body
Melling MEL-10552C
Pacesetter LT headers
Magnaflow Hi Flow Cats (converted to duals)
Dynomax muffler

I did not touch the heads in this build. I have previously ported/matched/polished the heads and intake.

Only problem I have is that my 600B only makes a max of 6lbs of boost now with the larger cam and displacement - i built this motor to handle a lot more - easily another 100+HP in there if I could get a
D1SC!

Hope to get to the dragstrip in ~1 month to see how this thing does!

Last edited by real82it; 05-04-2008 at 02:48 PM.
real82it is offline  
Old 05-04-2008, 10:03 PM
  #23  
Registered User
 
97WS6Pilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Florence, Kentucky
Posts: 1,546
Sounds like a nice setup. You should make a write up in the "Forced induction and the LT1" sticky to help out some of the newbs. You would have liked the CC304. The midrange and low end torque is incredible....

Last edited by 97WS6Pilot; 05-04-2008 at 10:08 PM.
97WS6Pilot is offline  
Old 05-05-2008, 06:40 PM
  #24  
Registered User
 
boosted-lt1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Farmington Hills, MI
Posts: 657
Sounds like a nice setup. You should make a write up in the "Forced induction and the LT1" sticky to help out some of the newbs.
I agree. Seems there are a lot of questions about rotating assemblies/setups etc for this type of power level.

-Scott.
boosted-lt1 is offline  
Old 05-05-2008, 10:56 PM
  #25  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
real82it's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 32
Originally Posted by 97WS6Pilot
Sounds like a nice setup. You should make a write up in the "Forced induction and the LT1" sticky to help out some of the newbs. You would have liked the CC304. The midrange and low end torque is incredible....
I might write this one up.....I have been working on this setup little by little since October 2005 - I have learned a lot along the way - knowing what I know now.....I could have gotten here in 1/2 the time for a lot less money I think...thx for the vote of confidence.

As far as the 304 - I looked at that cam, but was a little small for what I wanted to do -

CC 304: (w/1.6) 533/544, 210/220, 114 lsa

CC467-8 (My Cam) 576/570, 242/248, 113 lsa

If my trial subscription to engine analyzer pro had not expired I would run a sim to see the difference......this is a GREAT program for those that have not used it......it was very close to predicting the final performance of my engine - I used it to pick my final cam (CC actually suggested the CC468-8, but EA Pro predicted the horsepower did not peak until ~6500, and I did not want to have to rev my motor that high). I would love to buy the program but it is a little pricey for me right now.....~$450.00.

Last edited by real82it; 05-05-2008 at 10:59 PM.
real82it is offline  
Old 05-06-2008, 08:44 AM
  #26  
Registered User
 
97WS6Pilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Florence, Kentucky
Posts: 1,546
Originally Posted by real82it
As far as the 304 - I looked at that cam, but was a little small for what I wanted to do -

CC 304: (w/1.6) 533/544, 210/220, 114 lsa

CC467-8 (My Cam) 576/570, 242/248, 113 lsa
My blower motor really responded well to the CC304. The engine was a little sluggish down low with the CC503 on a 112. With all the drag the blower places on the motor I chose a cam that peaks a little lower to help torque down low.

Last edited by 97WS6Pilot; 05-06-2008 at 08:48 AM.
97WS6Pilot is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
dbusch22
Forced Induction
6
10-31-2016 11:09 AM
Dmonty
LT1 Based Engine Tech
33
06-02-2015 11:19 PM
transam_388
LT1 Based Engine Tech
9
03-15-2015 11:53 AM
Jazsun
Cars For Sale
0
12-29-2014 12:14 PM
chuyz28
LT1 Based Engine Tech
1
11-25-2014 11:14 PM



Quick Reply: Blown SC motor - need rebuild advice! - 450hp target



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:20 PM.