actually 500rwhp are not that impresive..

 

Going from a pretty much stock car to 500 rwhp is impressive. If 500 rwhp is not impressive to you then what is?

 

I went from a honda that had about 80hp to the wheels to my car at 393 at the beginning and I was unimpressed.. changed supercharger and hit 501.. TOTALLY unimpressed..

Intercooler ... 555 unimpressed
more boost.. 606 and ... ONCE!!! only once.. was I impressed with the way it pulled to 150! only once.. never again was I impressed...

im looking for more now... this is addicting really...

I expected that when I hit 500rwhp (my first goal) it was going to be flying!!! boring really... On the scantool I once measured 100-130 in 3.9s which IRL could have been a tad more... but still its fast.. i dont know... I just say 500 is not enough for most people when they are modding their car at that ammount of $

now its a bit of fun.. but... not always

I've ridden to many fast cars, this has definetely been the fastest... but I dont know... impressive was my bike

 

heh, by the time i get all of this done, i'll be so old it wont matter anyway...sigh. heads i'm hoping to manage stock. we'll see. cam i'm probably going with something mild when I go to 355. Yeah im starting to see the numbers come out a little higher than i was expecting.

 

This equation is pretty accurate for mods.....

Double the budget, triple the timeframe.

Anyone that has not not extensively built their car can't understand this.

Jason

 

im obviously speaking from inexperience, and im sure you guys who have already done this can tell me whats wrong with this idea

buy a race-ready rolling chassis
ive seen a few really nice 4th gen ones go for 4-5k, that eliminates the time/money spent on putting the power to the ground. ive seen them come with a 9" or 12bolt already in it, sometimes even a tranny.

drop an already dyno-tuned motor in it
buy a BBC from a reputable drag engine builder with about 650-700hp, turn key and dyno tuned for about $11-12k..........could throw nitrous on it if you really wanted i guess.

build one hell of an auto, or beef up the M6 $2-3k

obviously theres a few grand needed for misc stuff

 

Sounds too good to be true ...

I just cut a cheque for US$16,000 for my Small block build up and R&R, went with middle of the road stuff, good quality, but not top of the line. Not cheap, but no where near what Lingenfelter would be charging.

Then there is the daily driver vs strip car ... a car that is street and user friendly is going to cost much more than a purpose built strip car.

I'm into mine for around US$55k
US$21k for the car new and US$34k in modifications, and I'm not even trying to get the car to "hook", add another 10 BIG for that.

Not quite to 600rwhp yet, but with a T-trim, I think I'll be mighty close, and the car is still capable of a cross country jaunt, though it does attract some attention when you blip the throttle on shut down at the shopping center....

Just another .02 werth

Hope this helps

LWM

 

I don't even want to add it up, but its all of 12-15k and I have yet to dyno or make a pass on my new 355 because the of this little deployment thing. Its nice to pay off the bills and have money for my next mods but its not fun to be gone and not able to see the results of the boxes waiting for me at home. I have a street twin, aftercooler, brand band tube, and a soon to be rebuilt S-trim with a new 2.95 pulley waiting to go on in late feburary.

 

I have at least 35k in the TA when I started the 03 projects I thought I will be where i want to be with another 10K well its 04 and I dumped about 13k into the car last year and I'm still sitting here thinking well if i put 10k more into it this year i will be their. their is always something else you need or something new to try. I'm begining to think that 10k is the minimum yearly investment not the end!

I even had both of my F-bodies broke at the same time this year man that was fun! I guess I deserve it for having a low 11 second street car the SS and a goal of a 9 seconds for the TA.

I think I'll go get one of my guns now thanks for making me think about how much money I've spent!!!

Just kidding

Jeff
96 SS BLOWN
96 TA 396 D1

 

AhHhhhhhhhhhh

make the numbers stop!....brain overload!

 

I know what you mean. 500 rwhp just isn't what it seems. My friends Novi'd stang made 480 and it was ho-hum. Another friend had a 96 Cobra w/Vortech - right at 500 rwhp, fun, but not impressive. He just got an 03 Cobra with a KB blower, 550 rwhp, just not what I'd thought it would be.

Now, he also has an SN95 with an ATI D1 charged stroker. It made 585 rwhp, and it IS impressive. I think the main thing is torque tho. It has over 100 lb/ft. more torque than even the 03. 600 rwtq is where its at. (When its also got nearly 600 rwhp to go with it.) The 03 only have 490 rwtq, completely different feeling.

 

I have had my 95 LT1 M6 TA since Sept of 99. In that time I have done almost 30 mods that have cost any significant money. I have not yet started on the serious hp buildup. I still have the 123k mile stock longblock in the car, with which I put down about 350/350 rwhp/trq. I have gone by the mantra of start at the rear and build forward. I have (give or take) 10-12k in the car.

Moser 12 bolt (2500)
Denny's 3.5 driveshaft 500
Mcleod Street twin 904
FLP long tubes 1300
Wolfe Racecraft cage 600ish
self ported heads with larger valves ~600


You get the idea. I have saved money because I haven't had to buy parts twice. The parts that I have now are serious overkill for my CURRENT power levels. They will be ADEQUATE for my power goals.

The thing that will get you the most power for the least money and still remain reliable and fun is a PLAN. Get one, borrow one, or make one, and then stick to it.


As for all you other whiners about $$ and hobbies.

Cars: 67 Chevelle, $30,000+ into it plus I need about 6k more
and that doesn't count labor
79 Drag camino: this month I will spend another $1500 on it.
daily driver 81 GMC: dosn't deserve a dime
70Camino: restoration= money pit
36 Chevy= future resoration/turbo car $$$$$


Guns: some like the bling-bling, I like the bang bang, I average 3k per year

Sports: I am a competative powerlifter. I compete 3-5 times per year costing about a grand a time.


Money: You can't earn it fast enough, and you can't take it with you.

BBB