Drivetrain Clutch, Torque Converter, Transmission, Driveline, Axles, Rear Ends

way to determine stall on converter?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 19, 2004 | 09:52 PM
  #1  
kandied91z's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 3,978
From: MI
way to determine stall on converter?

where good i go to read up on how to determine what the proper size stall for a torque converter is??
Old May 19, 2004 | 11:08 PM
  #2  
Loadre's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 1,887
From: Kingsport, TN
Ask around, drive other cars with aftermarket converters, talk to converter companies.

BTW, Your car is badass!
Old May 20, 2004 | 03:17 AM
  #3  
kandied91z's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 3,978
From: MI
thanks......


i have a vigilante 3200 stall in it now but i'm not sure if i should upgrade. i was running that with my last combo which was a 383 sbc but it was only 300 rwhp and roughly 320 torque...not very high. the new setup is a 388 with alot more goodies making considerably more power so i'm wondering if i need to jump up or not since they offer to redo it through the company when changes like this are made???
Old May 20, 2004 | 03:26 AM
  #4  
AL SS590 M6's Avatar
Moderator
 
Joined: Jul 1998
Posts: 6,247
From: Charlotte,MI USA
Originally posted by kandied91z
thanks......


i have a vigilante 3200 stall in it now but i'm not sure if i should upgrade. i was running that with my last combo which was a 383 sbc but it was only 300 rwhp and roughly 320 torque...not very high. the new setup is a 388 with alot more goodies making considerably more power so i'm wondering if i need to jump up or not since they offer to redo it through the company when changes like this are made???
It's got more to do with where your engine makes it's power than how much power. The higher up the rpm band that your peak torque is made the higher the stall that is necessary to maximize the powerband. If your torque peak is at 3000rpm a 4000rpm converter would perform poorly. And visaversa if your torque peak is at 4000 a 3000 converter will not be the best. It'll work ok but not to the full potential of the motor.
So look at your dyno graph and see where the peak torque is developed then shoot for something a couple of hundred rpms less at the most. And never higher.
Old May 20, 2004 | 07:54 AM
  #5  
rskrause's Avatar
Moderator
 
Joined: Dec 1969
Posts: 10,745
From: Buffalo, New York
The previous post is on target, just want to elaborate a little. For maximum standing start acceleration, the converter should stall a bit below peak torque. But stall is usually a compromise. For many situations, a converter loose enough to give maximum off the line acceleration would be annoying loose in daily driving. Also, the converters behavior will vary with the weight of a car. The heavier the car, the looser the converter will behave and vice versa.

Also, don't fall into the trap of assuming that the "3,000rpm stall" converter you buy will actually stall at that rpm with your combo. The actual stall will depend on the weight of your car (as above) and the amount of torque your motor develops. More subtle influences include the gear you are running, etc. The TC has no idea what rpm your motor is turning, only how much torque is being transmitted. The more unusual your combo, the less likely that you will get exactly what you expect from an off-the-shelf converter. Having one "custom" configured for you application may be the best way to go. Even with a "custom" it is often necessary to get it re-stalled once or twice before it's right.

Where does your motor make peak hp and how do you use it?

Rich Krause
Old May 20, 2004 | 12:38 PM
  #6  
kandied91z's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 3,978
From: MI
i need to get the driveline combo dynoed....all things that i appreciate you guys saying. thanks.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
thenewkid
LT1 Based Engine Tech
4
Apr 12, 2015 07:42 PM
marine1bird
Drivetrain
10
Jan 25, 2015 12:02 AM
kclarson
Drag Racing Technique
6
Aug 22, 2002 04:04 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:21 AM.