transmission cooler help
I'm trying to find the best place to mount a transmission cooler.
It's a big one 20 inches long by 10 inches wide by 3/4 thick.
It will fit between the radiator and the A/C Condenser.
I have 7/8 of an inch in between the radiator and the A/C Condenser.
But if I put it there I would have to drill some holes in the bottom of the lower radiator support.
I wounder if I could put it in front of the fans?
The other problem I have is how to mount it?
I don't want to use those dam zip ties that goes through the radiator.
As far as I'm concerned your just asking for a leek if you use those things.
I'm putting my transmission in tomorrow after work so let me know what you think.
Thanks,
Chris G.
It's a big one 20 inches long by 10 inches wide by 3/4 thick.
It will fit between the radiator and the A/C Condenser.
I have 7/8 of an inch in between the radiator and the A/C Condenser.
But if I put it there I would have to drill some holes in the bottom of the lower radiator support.
I wounder if I could put it in front of the fans?
The other problem I have is how to mount it?
I don't want to use those dam zip ties that goes through the radiator.
As far as I'm concerned your just asking for a leek if you use those things.
I'm putting my transmission in tomorrow after work so let me know what you think.
Thanks,
Chris G.
Re: transmission cooler help
i would put it in front of the condensor on the drivers side because that fan is the one thats on the most. With a similar cooler to yours, and it set up like i said, i am seeing trans temps of 160-165 on a 70° day.
Re: transmission cooler help
Originally Posted by crazypurgatory
I'm trying to find the best place to mount a transmission cooler.
It's a big one 20 inches long by 10 inches wide by 3/4 thick.
It will fit between the radiator and the A/C Condenser.
I have 7/8 of an inch in between the radiator and the A/C Condenser.
But if I put it there I would have to drill some holes in the bottom of the lower radiator support.
I wounder if I could put it in front of the fans?
The other problem I have is how to mount it?
I don't want to use those dam zip ties that goes through the radiator.
As far as I'm concerned your just asking for a leek if you use those things.
I'm putting my transmission in tomorrow after work so let me know what you think.
Thanks,
Chris G.
It's a big one 20 inches long by 10 inches wide by 3/4 thick.
It will fit between the radiator and the A/C Condenser.
I have 7/8 of an inch in between the radiator and the A/C Condenser.
But if I put it there I would have to drill some holes in the bottom of the lower radiator support.
I wounder if I could put it in front of the fans?
The other problem I have is how to mount it?
I don't want to use those dam zip ties that goes through the radiator.
As far as I'm concerned your just asking for a leek if you use those things.
I'm putting my transmission in tomorrow after work so let me know what you think.
Thanks,
Chris G.
Also, the driver side fan is the low speed, and the passenger side is the high speed, depending on which year your car is.
Re: transmission cooler help
Originally Posted by MyShibbyZ28
I put mine in front of everything so it's the first to get the air. How do zip ties cause leaks? I have not heard of this and suddenly everyone is saying they break the radiator wide open???
Also, the driver side fan is the low speed, and the passenger side is the high speed, depending on which year your car is.
Also, the driver side fan is the low speed, and the passenger side is the high speed, depending on which year your car is.
I just don't like the idea of running something through the rad core
It's only aluminium you could hurt the core when you put the round tie strap through it.
Chris G.
Re: transmission cooler help
1 - Your 97 runs both fans at low speed with stock programming whenever the AC is on or coolant temp is over 230.
Posted before:
I mounted one of my coolers in front of the condenser, but that will kill your AC performance on hot days. There's not much space in front of the radiator / behind the condenser though.
Another excellent option is a fenderwell mounted cooler with a fan like my 2nd cooler. I got the idea from the way Fred {Injuneer} has his configured.
But if you already have a cooler, all I can do is show some pics of how I mounted mine.
Look at this photo album and this thread for some ideas.
Mounting a cooler via zip ties through the radiator flews will not hurt anything, but you will need a vibration buffer between the mounting of the the parts to keep from wearing the fins and eventually causing a leak. I used 4 rubber insulator inserts intended for use on a GM HEI distributor cap on each of 4 tie strap anchor points between the 2 parts.
And in what fluid route direction do you intend to hook the lines to the cooler if routing it in series with the stock radiator mounted heat exchanger?
If routing in series, I would suggest running the fluid path through the auxillary cooler 1st, then through the radiator mounted unit. There is a very good reason to do it that way. Ask me why if your interested.
Have fun!!!
Posted before:
i hooked up the Snao-On scanner on my 96 to get you an idea on temps. My car has stock pcm parameters w/ {stock 180 t/stat}....{w/ac off} fan relay #1 comes on at 230 and goes off at 219 {low speed}. fan relays #2 & 3 come on at 234 and go off at 228{ high speed}. {w/ac on} fan relay #1 comes on running fans at low speed. fan relays #2 & 3 again come on at 234 , running fans at high speed and go off at 228 returning them to low speed.
Another excellent option is a fenderwell mounted cooler with a fan like my 2nd cooler. I got the idea from the way Fred {Injuneer} has his configured.
But if you already have a cooler, all I can do is show some pics of how I mounted mine.
Look at this photo album and this thread for some ideas.
Mounting a cooler via zip ties through the radiator flews will not hurt anything, but you will need a vibration buffer between the mounting of the the parts to keep from wearing the fins and eventually causing a leak. I used 4 rubber insulator inserts intended for use on a GM HEI distributor cap on each of 4 tie strap anchor points between the 2 parts.

And in what fluid route direction do you intend to hook the lines to the cooler if routing it in series with the stock radiator mounted heat exchanger?
If routing in series, I would suggest running the fluid path through the auxillary cooler 1st, then through the radiator mounted unit. There is a very good reason to do it that way. Ask me why if your interested.

Have fun!!!
Re: transmission cooler help
OK so I"m going to buy another transmission cooler for my car this one I can mount under the front of the car where the air gets sucked in.
I'm guessing this would be enough.1003-1004
http://www.perma-cool.com/Catalog/Cat_page15.html
Or maybe this one?
http://www.secureperformanceorder.co...ProductID=5190
This ones longer.
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
Let me know.
Thanks,
Chris G.
I'm guessing this would be enough.1003-1004
http://www.perma-cool.com/Catalog/Cat_page15.html
Or maybe this one?
http://www.secureperformanceorder.co...ProductID=5190
This ones longer.
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
Let me know.
Thanks,
Chris G.
Last edited by crazypurgatory; Apr 2, 2006 at 11:48 AM.
Re: transmission cooler help
We mount ALL F-Body vcoolers directly to the condensor. The best coolers available are the Tru-Cool 4490's. You want it as close to the radiator as possible, because it uses your stock fans to cool, while in traffic. If you mount it anywhere else, you only cool when you're moving (unless you use a didicated fan). The 4490 cooler fits perfectly in the location on a 4th gen.
DON'T use a "tube and fin" style cooler. They're junk, and they don't work. The 4490 is a "stacked plate" design, which is far more efficient.
Frank
CPT
DON'T use a "tube and fin" style cooler. They're junk, and they don't work. The 4490 is a "stacked plate" design, which is far more efficient.
Frank
CPT
Re: transmission cooler help
Originally Posted by crazypurgatory
I'm trying to find the best place to mount a transmission cooler.
It's a big one 20 inches long by 10 inches wide by 3/4 thick.
It will fit between the radiator and the A/C Condenser.
I have 7/8 of an inch in between the radiator and the A/C Condenser.
But if I put it there I would have to drill some holes in the bottom of the lower radiator support.
I wounder if I could put it in front of the fans?
The other problem I have is how to mount it?
I don't want to use those dam zip ties that goes through the radiator.
As far as I'm concerned your just asking for a leek if you use those things.
I'm putting my transmission in tomorrow after work so let me know what you think.
Thanks,
Chris G.
It's a big one 20 inches long by 10 inches wide by 3/4 thick.
It will fit between the radiator and the A/C Condenser.
I have 7/8 of an inch in between the radiator and the A/C Condenser.
But if I put it there I would have to drill some holes in the bottom of the lower radiator support.
I wounder if I could put it in front of the fans?
The other problem I have is how to mount it?
I don't want to use those dam zip ties that goes through the radiator.
As far as I'm concerned your just asking for a leek if you use those things.
I'm putting my transmission in tomorrow after work so let me know what you think.
Thanks,
Chris G.
Re: transmission cooler help
Originally Posted by 12SCNDZ
We mount ALL F-Body vcoolers directly to the condensor. The best coolers available are the Tru-Cool 4490's. You want it as close to the radiator as possible, because it uses your stock fans to cool, while in traffic. If you mount it anywhere else, you only cool when you're moving (unless you use a didicated fan). The 4490 cooler fits perfectly in the location on a 4th gen.
DON'T use a "tube and fin" style cooler. They're junk, and they don't work. The 4490 is a "stacked plate" design, which is far more efficient.
Frank
CPT
DON'T use a "tube and fin" style cooler. They're junk, and they don't work. The 4490 is a "stacked plate" design, which is far more efficient.
Frank
CPT
Re: transmission cooler help
Originally Posted by 12SCNDZ
We mount ALL F-Body vcoolers directly to the condensor. The best coolers available are the Tru-Cool 4490's. You want it as close to the radiator as possible, because it uses your stock fans to cool, while in traffic. If you mount it anywhere else, you only cool when you're moving (unless you use a didicated fan). The 4490 cooler fits perfectly in the location on a 4th gen.
DON'T use a "tube and fin" style cooler. They're junk, and they don't work. The 4490 is a "stacked plate" design, which is far more efficient.
Frank
CPT
DON'T use a "tube and fin" style cooler. They're junk, and they don't work. The 4490 is a "stacked plate" design, which is far more efficient.
Frank
CPT
OK so now I am lost.
So your saying I need to put the cooler in front of my A/C Condenser?
Why can't I put it behind the A/C Condenser attached to the front of the radiator?
Why can't I put it on the back of the radiator in front of the fans?
And how in the hell do I run the lines?
Please help me I have to get this done by next weekend.
I had my transmission rebuilt and it had a pan gasket leak so when we replaced the gasket we noticed that the transmission fluid smelled a little burnt.
Thanks,
Chris G.
Re: transmission cooler help
Originally Posted by 2000GTP
Frank, is there an online retailer or someone that sells the Tru-Cools and how much do they go for?
Frank
CPT
Re: transmission cooler help
Originally Posted by 12SCNDZ
Call 502-955-6035. ask for Josh Sommerman. Tell him Frank (from CPT) told you to call. It will sell for around $75. dimensions are 12" x 11" x 3/4". Just ask for a 4490 Tru-Cool cooler.
Frank
CPT
Frank
CPT
Glad you could help somebody that Hijacks my post.
Chris G.
Re: transmission cooler help
Originally Posted by crazypurgatory
Well thanks for ignoring my post.
Glad you could help somebody that Hijacks my post.
Chris G.
Glad you could help somebody that Hijacks my post.
Chris G.
What are you talking about? I already answered your question a couple messages up???????
Frank
CPT


