Is a TCI Saturday Night Special Torque Converter a good mod for mostly stock LS1?
Is a TCI Saturday Night Special Torque Converter a good mod for mostly stock LS1?
Per TCI's website, this is the highest recommended TC for a stock cam and gives 400-500 RPM over stock. My '99 SS is all stock beyond a cat back exhaust, CAI and, in the future, a reprogram. The reason I'm tempted is because I remember putting a mild TC in my old '79 Z28 and it made a Huge difference. However, this is not a cheap mod so I'd like to know it will work before doing it. Thanks in advance.
Re: Is a TCI Saturday Night Special Torque Converter a good mod for mostly stock LS1?
It'll work,but you'll be dissappointed.Even a step up to the 'breakaway' for a +1000 rpm in stall speed is generally not considered.Most use the 'streetfighter' for all around use and get good street manners while still being able to get up into the powerband quickly for race use.Do a 'search' in the drivetrain forum for TCI,or 'saturday night special',or 'breakaway',or 'streetfighter' and see what the results are.
Re: Is a TCI Saturday Night Special Torque Converter a good mod for mostly stock LS1?
Originally Posted by FirstYrLS1Z
It'll work,but you'll be dissappointed.Even a step up to the 'breakaway' for a +1000 rpm in stall speed is generally not considered.Most use the 'streetfighter' for all around use and get good street manners while still being able to get up into the powerband quickly for race use.Do a 'search' in the drivetrain forum for TCI,or 'saturday night special',or 'breakaway',or 'streetfighter' and see what the results are.
BTW, do you know what the stock gear ratio in a '99 SS with an A4 is? It's either 2.73 or 3.23 I think.
Re: Is a TCI Saturday Night Special Torque Converter a good mod for mostly stock LS1?
Most people I've encountered who use a TCI converter in a 700/4L60E are thoroughly disappointed with their performance. TCI converters work great in older 350's and 400's, but for some reason they fall way short of other manufactuerers for O/D transmissions.
Check out http://www.protorque.com/index2.htm. I've never had a ProTorque come back with any kind of problem. I've also never had a customer complaint about one.
Frank
Check out http://www.protorque.com/index2.htm. I've never had a ProTorque come back with any kind of problem. I've also never had a customer complaint about one.
Frank
Re: Is a TCI Saturday Night Special Torque Converter a good mod for mostly stock LS1?
Originally Posted by 12SCNDZ
Most people I've encountered who use a TCI converter in a 700/4L60E are thoroughly disappointed with their performance. TCI converters work great in older 350's and 400's, but for some reason they fall way short of other manufactuerers for O/D transmissions.
Check out http://www.protorque.com/index2.htm. I've never had a ProTorque come back with any kind of problem. I've also never had a customer complaint about one.
Frank
Check out http://www.protorque.com/index2.htm. I've never had a ProTorque come back with any kind of problem. I've also never had a customer complaint about one.
Frank
Re: Is a TCI Saturday Night Special Torque Converter a good mod for mostly stock LS1?
Yes, the 10.5" will work great in your combination. It's also a very nice "streetable" converter.
To be honest, nobody makes a good shift kit for a 4L60E. When we build our racing 4L60E's, we source our parts from several different manufactuerers to get the desired results. We udse many parts from Sonnax Ind., and all of our race transmissions get billet Fairbanks 2ND servos.
To really make a 4L60E able to withstand the abuse that drag racing puts on them, it takes more than a "shift kit", anyway. There are many internal modifications that need to be performed.
Frank
To be honest, nobody makes a good shift kit for a 4L60E. When we build our racing 4L60E's, we source our parts from several different manufactuerers to get the desired results. We udse many parts from Sonnax Ind., and all of our race transmissions get billet Fairbanks 2ND servos.
To really make a 4L60E able to withstand the abuse that drag racing puts on them, it takes more than a "shift kit", anyway. There are many internal modifications that need to be performed.
Frank
Re: Is a TCI Saturday Night Special Torque Converter a good mod for mostly stock LS1?
I agree with Frank here on that TCI does ok with TH350/400's but not 700R4's & 4L60E's. I will not warranty one of my units behind TCI or B&M torque converters.
Re: Is a TCI Saturday Night Special Torque Converter a good mod for mostly stock LS1?
Originally Posted by Pro Built Automatics
I agree with Frank here on that TCI does ok with TH350/400's but not 700R4's & 4L60E's. I will not warranty one of my units behind TCI or B&M torque converters.
Re: Is a TCI Saturday Night Special Torque Converter a good mod for mostly stock LS1?
Ok, update. After much research, I've narrowed it down to the following three possible TCs (and of course I'll use a trans cooler and an ECM reprogram to firm up the shifts and take advantage of the new TC):
1. Yank Stealth Thruster 2800 (2800 Stall, 2.10 STR)
2. Yank Stealth Thruster 3000 (3200 Stall, 2.25 STR)
3. Vigilante 2800-3000 Stall (STR NA)
A lot of choices out there! But these three seem like they would work best with my basically stock application, and these two brands have the best reputation in the LS1 crowd. I'm picking up that the higher the STR, the generally better it will be for the street, which makes #2 seem superficially like the best pick. What do you guys think?
1. Yank Stealth Thruster 2800 (2800 Stall, 2.10 STR)
2. Yank Stealth Thruster 3000 (3200 Stall, 2.25 STR)
3. Vigilante 2800-3000 Stall (STR NA)
A lot of choices out there! But these three seem like they would work best with my basically stock application, and these two brands have the best reputation in the LS1 crowd. I'm picking up that the higher the STR, the generally better it will be for the street, which makes #2 seem superficially like the best pick. What do you guys think?
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