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The Vigilante gets a lot of good press, but it's rather pricey. I am not real familiar with the more modestly priced lines, so won't make a recommendation in that category. But you might look up Coan at www.coanracing.com I think they make street as well as race converters. A converter that stalls at 2,400-2,800 would be a good choice.

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Rich Krause

 

I just got a 3200 vig convertor. It should be fine in traffic and such as long as i put the tranny cooler in as well. I've been doing a lot of reading up on them and vigilante seems to be the way to go and everyone said a 3200 stall should be fine and so did the guy at precision industries. My mods are in my sig. The only thing i hafta do when i put it in is lt1 edit the car because i heard with any stall over 3000 rpm then it will not shift right and the torque management thing in the computer is messed up.

 

tci recommended a 3200 for me, but i went w/ the 3500. TCI has been around for a long time and are very reputable. I paid $430 total for the stall, whereas the vig would have cost $699 not including shipping or anything. Great deal.

My truck is not a daily driver, I would have gone w/ the 3200 if it was. If you are still running the stock cam and no mods, I wouldn't go over 3200. Trust me man, whatever you loose in mpg around town you will gain in grin factor. The truck is a friggin blast to drive, normal driving is just cool w/ the stall, like I said it stays at a certain rpm like a boat till the converter locks, then they drop, but as soon as you dip into the throttle the motor responds phenomenally.

 

My 2800 feels like stock in traffic.. I can't even tell it's there. You don't need to "give it more gas" than you would a stock converter IMO. You don't have to "get it goin".. it still rolls forward with no pressure on the gas pedal.

My PI is a 2800 w/ 2.5 STR... which is perfect for a bolt on car, but IMO, a little too small for a cam'd car, which is why mine is coming out to go bigger. How much bigger? No idea till I dyno it and find the peak #'s.

And how it helps? Check out my 60' times, no transbrake.

 

With a lock-up converter you will not lose mpg on the highway.... around town is where the mpg will most likely drop.
I would also get a tranny cooler as well. More slippage in the tranny=more heat. Save yourself a tranny rebuild( it will happen sometime, much sooner w/ a stall) and buy a cooler.

My 3200 TCI comes in the mail today. I can't wait! Will update when installed and when Mother Nature decides to stop dumping snow on us!

Mike

 

Definite "yes" to a tranny cooler if installing a higher stall converter.

Rich Krause

 

Javier, What type convertor did you get, where from and how much did you pay.
Shawn

 

I know you didn't ask me, but check out this thread, cheapest I have found so far and was looking for a while.

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...hreadid=210667

 

Vigilante 2800, STR is 2.5

jesse

 

PI Vigilante 2800, 2.5 STR

Got it from Thunder Racing 1.5 years ago.. at the time they had a deal with a combo kit of Converter and Shift kit for a great price, I hopped on that. Can't remember what it is now, but I'm sure you'd find it on their site www.thunderracing.com

 

I want a mild coverter, maybe somewhere between 2,500-2,800 RPM. Do i need to get a tranny Cooler for that? what woudl i also need? thanks

 

you will also want a transgo shift kit, to firm your shift back.
the higher stall will make the shifts soft.

jesse

 

I wont need a shift kit for a 700r will I sense it's hydraulic, and not electronic, is that why the shifts are soft, the tranny in my car was recently rebuilt. So with a 3k it'll feel like a stocker cruising around and such, till I put my foot into it? Thanks for answering some of these questions guys.

 

It's late and I didn't read through all the posts, I apologize if I repeat some of the things that have been said.

When I built my 406 I decided to get a good converter but didn't know anything about them. You see the B&M 2400-2600 stalls in jegs for 300 or so, but theres alot more to it. Yes, for some people off the shelf conveters are ok, but thats just it, they're ok, but alot of the times they aren't even that. To obtain a higher stall speed you must move the fins(which ones I don't remember)to a negaitve angle, which requires more engine RPM's to overcome that angle and to force fluild into the front pump, at a certian angle you actually loose more than you are gaining, yes you are acheiving higher stall but you are loosing effeicency and creating alot of heat. Big conveters, 12, 11in, that are stalled high, 2400+ will not hit like smaller converters that have similar or higher stall speeds. The reason is this, a smaller converter, lets say a 9.5, is going to require more engine RPM to create the same amount of pressure than a larger converter, if you are wanting stall speed this is a good thing, (you wouldn't want to put a 9.5 behing a motor that you want to stall at 2000 or so)because the 9.5 has to spin more to push the fluid, you can retain a very positive angle of the fins which pushes the fluid harder to the front pump. If you have ever rode/drove a car with a sloppy converter and then in a car with a tight 9.5, it will feel like a completely different car. There is more tourqe multiplication, stalls quicker and hits harder. A big converter never really hits. For example, after I got my 9.5 ACT 2800 for my 406(I'm going with a 3300-3500 now)my friend with a 71 bird with a 455 couldn't believe it. He couldnt get over how you couldn't tell the converter was there untill you smacked the gas, then it got interesting. About a month later he bout a 10in Contenintal 2800 (he has a TH350)for his car, he picked up 4 tenths just off the converter. The car runs faster, gets in its power band and stays there, and will smoke the tires from a 25-30mph roll. He was happy to say the least. After driving a car with a slippery 12in converter and going to a tight 9.5, I tell everyone don't skimp on the conveter. Stock Ls1's put a yank or a PI 3500 stall in there cars and pick up .3-.5 tenths. And with lockup you really don't know its there. Converter technology has come along way in the last 10 years. I wish I had went with more stall, but I am going to wait to see if I go with a different cam before I decide that.
Wow this was long. My apologies.

 

2800 stall PI, I can hardly tell its their, very mild stall. I can feel it loose till i get to the 2800 rpm range more or less, then it hits like a bad outta hell, granted with traction. I have 3.73's intake, exhaust, PCM....check sig + LCA's