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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 03:17 PM
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My drivetrain makes a horrible noise when driving forward. There are no noises in reverse. I thought for a while the sound was the differential or wheel bearing.

Today I lifted the rear wheels off the ground and attempted to spin the wheels (neutral, no parking brake). I had to exert a massive amount of energy to even budge the tires, and a horrible noise results from when the driveshaft connects to the transmission (A4).

Here is a video I took of the noise:

Drivetrain noises 1997 Camaro Z28 - YouTube

Any ideas? Should the tires be hard to spin in neutral and off the ground?
Old Jun 26, 2012 | 10:09 AM
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Re: Drivetrain noises

Are you able to "rattle" the front yoke slider that goes over the trans output shaft? If so, that would indicate a worn bearing on the output shaft, or a damaged slider.
Old Jun 26, 2012 | 10:16 AM
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I don't recall that moving. That's the metallic looking piece that connects to the front of the driveshaft and is in the transmission, correct?
Old Jun 26, 2012 | 12:33 PM
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it's quick and easy to pull the driveshaft.
If the u-joints are crunchy when you pivot them, replace them.
Also, use that time to spin the rear differential to listen for noise or irregular drag, and to see if the pinion yoke has any lateral motion.
top off the trans. when done.
Old Jun 26, 2012 | 03:12 PM
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How could I do it myself? I thought a torch was necessary to melt out the plastic retail era holding in the universal joints.
Old Jun 29, 2012 | 03:54 PM
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Well it turns out my rear wheel bearings are shot. Is there any way I could replace these or no? The shop quoted me $800-$1300 to do the job completely.
Old Jun 29, 2012 | 05:38 PM
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Sure.
If you were to prepare for the worst case scenario,
Get a new retaining bolt for the differential crossbar (see below)
A retaining bolt removal kit (the bolt commonly breaks)
A basic magnet tool which will help you pull the c-clips from the axles
Slide hammer tool (rentable) to pull the old bearings out
Access to a good set of used axles (the bearings use the axle as the inner bearing race and probably have ground it down)
2 New bearings to go with good stock axles or 2 offset axle-saver bearing to use with your ground down originals
2 seals
New 80/90 and GM posi additive
1 Cover gasket
The usual tools to pull the rear calipers
A buddy and I last did a set on an 8.8. Mustang. Not much different than the GM axle, we used the offset axle-saver bearings.

Worst case scenario, you're in for over $300 including new axles.

With used parts, possible use of axle-saver bearings, you're in for < $100.
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I am going to do the bearings myself. what is the differential crossbar?


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Old Jul 1, 2012 | 12:35 AM
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Call it a crosspin shaft.

Originally Posted by jmd
Get a new retaining bolt for the differential crossbar (see below)
A retaining bolt removal kit (the bolt commonly breaks)
The retaining bolt is the very first thing he pops out:

http://tinyurl.com/7n5qr24

Yours isn't notched.

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Old Jul 1, 2012 | 01:33 PM
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so is mine an actual bolt or is it a pin?


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Old Jul 1, 2012 | 08:51 PM
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The one he barely shows you is only partially threaded. So it's a bolt-in retaining pin.
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Sure.
If you were to prepare for the worst case scenario,
Get a new retaining bolt for the differential crossbar (see below)
A retaining bolt removal kit (the bolt commonly breaks)
A basic magnet tool which will help you pull the c-clips from the axles
Slide hammer tool (rentable) to pull the old bearings out
Access to a good set of used axles (the bearings use the axle as the inner bearing race and probably have ground it down)
2 New bearings to go with good stock axles or 2 offset axle-saver bearing to use with your ground down originals
2 seals
New 80/90 and GM posi additive
1 Cover gasket
The usual tools to pull the rear calipers
A buddy and I last did a set on an 8.8. Mustang. Not much different than the GM axle, we used the offset axle-saver bearings.

Worst case scenario, you're in for over $300 including new axles.

With used parts, possible use of axle-saver bearings, you're in for < $100.
what are the "2 seals" for that you mention?


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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 02:58 PM
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im starting the process Monday and I really need to know what the 2 seals are..


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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 03:31 PM
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Re: Drivetrain noises

After you put the bearing into the axle housings, you install a "seal" that prevents gear lube from getting out of the axle tube.
Old Jul 21, 2012 | 04:39 PM
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thank you so much!


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