you dunb ****....you are about one stupid mother****er! he called you everything else but a dumbass....if you woulda read between the lines you would know that....i have read the entire thread and that was how i saw what you said about the zexel you stupid ****! i said it was irelivent about wheither or not mine sees street use is because all mine sees is track time...and it has seen over 100 passes running 1.4-1.5 sixties...its seen more abuse than ANY m6 has....guuess i hafd to spell that out for you too you stupid ****....

never said it was sheer genius to beef up the 10...just said anything is better than stock...he said a 12 was in the future PROBOBLY @ YEARS AWAY YOU STUPID ****! he would still like to drive the car.....spending 250-350 on a used rear that you know nothing about or spend 6 and know you have a stronger rear than youll prolly ever use with an upgraded 10? well only a dumbass would go your suggested route....you preach and preach about a 12 but then talk about yours breaking twice! lol ! too funny ! also your axles arent worth a **** in that thing unless they are 35spline another weak spot that i guess you overlooked

anyhow im unsubscribing to this thread so i dont get alerts every time your retarded *** says something.....

bye bye dumbass

 

This is about the funniest god damned thing I've read on this thread besides the "drinking in a bar" scenario... LOL!!!!!
Yet this fine gentleman refuses to answer just one simple question... on what TIRE is he running. But... I'm sure he never saw it since he's done nothing but skip all around in this thread looking for ways to comprehend his own version... You can tell this one is very pissed because of all the typos. I wonder if the keyboard survived?
If my car never saw track duty then I could care less about how strong it was. It's just plain stupid to think a 10-bolt should be "beefed" up for street use when the intention is to get a 12-bolt. Even you can understand the more money you save the sooner a purchase can be made. You do understand that, don't you? You splattering on how a Zexel is worth a crap especially since you are in an auto and on a big tire is... what was that you said? Irrelavent? I think so...
You are worse than an estrogen ridden female on her 28th day. You guessed wrong on the axles... No shocker since you've pretty much guessed wrong on this entire topic. Maybe you should go over in the tech section and start whining about how regardless if headbolts are ARP's they should be thrown awsay after each use...
It's probably a good thing. Face it... you are out of your element.

 

you really are a stupid mother ****er...im on a 26x10.5 what the **** does it matter? im hittin 1.4 60s....something your t56 and 12 bolt will NEVER DO!
33splines in a 12 arent worth a ****...you need 35s....

you have no ****ing reading comprehension what so ever...you are a ****ing retarded dumbass....he is about 2 years out on buying the rear if he EVER does it! if he is aggressive with a factory rear on the street ...chances are it will break...with a built 10 bolt hes not going to brake it on the street....

you dont seem to be able to understand he didnt care to hear all your blah blah blah about why he or anyone else is stupid for using a 10....

guess im stupid for running one too....well all i can say is were you live and where i live are pretty close....wont you put your money up and run my stupidly built 10 bolt? say for a grand? at the 1/4 mile track of YOUR CHOICE

if not then take your slow, underpowered , heavy ***, been rebuilt 2 times already rear having *** peice of **** and drive it infront of a semi-truck!

you were a tuely ignorant mother ****er....

oh yea and i didnt say anything about tire size because i already had in another post...

but we have all seen your reading comp. sucks , so i understand

 

baby jesus hates you all.

 

Ladies and gentlemen...
I give you the prime example that no matter how allegedly fast you are you can still be angry/disgruntled and just down right retarded.
Really? Once again.. could you back this slop up with proof or reason? I'm still waiting for your answer as to how much power an evil 12-bolt consumes since, "dyno's speak for themselves..."
There have been quite a few members on this very board who've ran 1.4's w/ a BW and 12-bolt. Jordon Musser comes to mind. But really.. where's your proof?
We all who? You and your boy?
Didn't you say you were done? I guess you can't find your ball?
Wow... so so whiney just because an agreement can't be made...
I'm not going to argue over your retarded assumptions with you speaking for your boy...
The fact remains... Even if you are on a 26" tire whether it be a Street/Drag or any bias ply for that matter that 10-bolt of yours is lasting because obviously it is not taking the full on shock from the engine MUCH LIKE A MANUAL WOULD.
But really.. what is the point? Why are you arguing with theories and assumptions? You don't have a manual and haven't ran a Zexel back to back w/ an Auburn with the same setup and you are unknowing of the results.
That's nice your 10-bolt holds up to your alleged 10 second junk, but nothing you've said makes any sense especially since it has been proven for years a manual tranny will break a 10-bolt easier than a auto regardless of t-brake.. so and and so forth... There is no proof that just because your superdooper Zexel Torsen has lasted this long in an auto on a soft tire that it's any "beefier" than an Auburn.. which was the original point in my posts, remember?
As said... you are out of your element...

 

well since all dynos very its hard to say but about 5-8% which doesnt sound like much but if you have 400rwhp with a 12 your prolly putting around420 with a 10...and its even worse with a 9 inch....are you disputing that as well?
i have a 26x10.5 et street on a 15x 8 prostar...do i need to take pictures to prove thats what is on my car? it has a th350 with a 5500 stall on the brake...no heat no a/c no power anything. turbo action cheetah shifter reverse shift pattern and currently have a 434 sbc with afr 220 heads and a 950 hp carb being finished up...it had a cc306 lt1 motor with highly ported heads ran 11.68 at 119.7mph and 10.92 at 127mph on a 150 wet shot. 3.73 gears on a 4l60 trans and then into the th350 for about 40 runs with the 60 foot times i provided...
as far as the 1.4 60 jordan hits? he should he has alot more power than i did, whats your point? im building an 8.8 for this setup and i guess im stupid there too right? what ever dude...8.8 is lighter more efficient, more gear seliction and just as strong (and some would say stronger ) than your 12...oh and cheaper too...forgot that part...
you call my **** junk but i see you sure didnt want to run at the track of your choice for a grand against my "JUNK"

 

Not at all. You just proved my point. Do I need to dumb it down for you even more or do you get it yet?
Unbelievable... Did you just freshly forget the tantrum you threw here:
Actually this could be taken one of two ways. I can only assume you mean either a BW and 12-bolt are incabaple of handling the torque to generate such 60' times or you are claiming I will never reach that goal. The latter may be correct. Who knows what the future holds. However if you mean the former then I must say I've had more complicated arguments with a 5 year old...
Ugh...
If you would read back you can see I do not dispute the loss through a larger diff. However the numbers can be drastically inflated by superficial minds. Put it this way... Turn your brain on for this one... Some of those people who run an agressive clutch on DR's or slicks or even Streets at the track will sacrifice a little power for a tad of assurance. Because no matter what you say regarding your big tire/auto you are out of your element when it comes to those with a manual. Understand?
Would you prefer I call it sh*t or junk?

 

actually let me dumb it down for YOU

YOUR car will never see those kinda times... and i never said a 12 cant hold the power....i only said its not the better rear to go to...pretty simple...8.8 and 9 are both better rears....if i was spending 2k+ on a rear it wouldnt be on a 12....it would be 9 inch....

and i see you still dont want to race my **** or junk....

so would you prefer to be called ***** or bitch?

 

Dang dont you thinks its kinda time to shut this down Rich? Kinda seems out of hand to me.

He already has the parts and a stock 10 bolt will hold up to his no racing thing.

Spending money on a 12 bolt that wont see the track(slicks) is a waste.

Have a nice wedding, enjoy your 10 bolt for years, buy the wife something nice with the money from the 12 bolt, end of story.

 

LOL... you've dumbed down nothing. If you would refer to my previous post I already said I may never go those times. We'll see... You can read, right?
I agree. In fact I suggested either/or in my very first post. I have no idea about a 9" since I've never owned one, but I've read horror stories regarding them as well. I would've bought one if they were available at the time I was in the market for a stout diff, but there was no aftermarket for a 4th gen bolt-on 9". I like to try to stay w/in my direct experiences and not pontificate on who/what/when/why/how.
LMAO... You are such a tough bully!
Let me guess.... you are one of those that lives in a doublewide down by the river... That's fantastic you know my junk doesn't go 10's yet are wanting to run your junk against mine for money. I don't care who you are that's funny right there!

 

5 and the kick make it more fair?
i never said it had to be heads up.....anyhow i never claimed to be a tough guy....i saw you had alot of valid points but he didnt care about what your personal opinion was about what he was doing...he had already done it....just wanted to know how much power... you have valid points with some of what you said...but the point still is you were stating things the cat wasnt concerned about...i think he made a wise choice with HIS setupnow if they had a setup like mine id call him a dumb ***....but i had a 10k engine to worry about first...and i know how to roll into it if need be untill i have my rear done....

 

oh and actually no i dont live in a double wide on the river...i live in a rancher on 106 acres

 

No thanks. I don't run race cars.
Because you still do not understand I'll lay all the points I made right here for you to easily reference:
- Trying to "beef" up a diff using a Zexel torsen for a manual trans car is taking a step in the wrong direction.
- If the intention is to buy a 12-bolt in the future then make due with what is available.
- There are smarter, more money savy ways to go about building a temporary 10-bolt that will only see street duty than to buy aftermarket axles, pay for a Zexel Torsen and pay to have them installed.
- Axles from a 10-bolt (can't remember if they're 28 spline or not) diff are not a weak point.
Hell if the original poster had no intention to buy a 12-bolt then fine. It'd be much more than I'd ever do, but it's his money.
I arrest my case...

 

well how about a pass with my street car then driven about 34k miles a year....heads up pass for the same grand?

but you are still not making since...why spend 200-300 dollars on a used rear and not knowing if its gonna make it one day or 1 year or 100 years...he spent 500 dollars and has a rear that he isnt going to hurt WITH HIS APPLICATION...and has a rear that he knows is gonna get him where he needs to be...he paid the same price to strengthen up his rear that he would have to rebuild a stock rear to stock specs...there are some thing you just dont put into a car used and a factory rear is one of them...thats my only piont....for what he is doing its perfect...so for the two years he is waiting to get a 12 IF he ever gets one he is supposed to keep it parked or have a rear that he knows nothing about and hope it makes it...according to you anyway.....am i missing anything here? i mean if he was putting in a 12 in the next month or two i would agree....but this guy is years down the road with a 12

that is my only point really man....yall are acting like its getting a 12 in it tomorrow

 

No thanks... I've never agreed to run a race over the internet. Especially for money. You win. If I'm ever in F-burg I'll let you know.
First off no specific time was ever given as to when a 12-bolt would be purchased. Secondly there are too many variables to argue about buying a used 10-bolt. I and many of my friends have done it successfully a few times. Whether it be buying a complete 10-bolt or just spare parts. It's called Buyer beware. Of course there are no guarantees, but there are ways to protect yourself. However in order to get motivate you really must care about saving. This guy obviously doesn't. Especially when saying he'd never reuse ARP head bolts if he were ever to do a head swap...
Like I said... It makes no sense to me to spend that kind of money on a weak carrier and strong axles when they really aren't needed. ESPECIALLY for street use.
With the parents...