Is that so? Tell me, should I have bought GM replacement axles @ $600/pair, or should I have bought the "beefier" aftermarket axles for $250/pair?? Or maybe instead, I should pay a junkyard $200 for a pair of used axles...you do the math. I bought aftermarket axles because they were cheaper than OER, and my OE ones were FUBAR'ed (I mentioned this earlier). I can't believe how some of you people make it as far as you do in life with your logic...

 

Not sure who you are directing this to, but hell.. I'll feild it since this is such a blast.
Most EVERYONE has a reason to hate a 10-bolt. Especially those with a manual transmission. They are junk. Plain and simple. They are the same weak POS that comes from the S-10. They were not even close to being designed to handle even the stock torque of a LT1/LS1.
If you've had such success with a 10-bolt that wasn't, "built as it is now.." then what's the point of throwing money at this one? You can buy used 10-bolts for cheap these days.
So you feather the clutch on Streets... Nice... I dump my clutch at 6000+. I reckon that makes me a retard. LOL
Honestly IMO I think you are wasting money if your motive is to eventually get 12-bolt or 9".

I have one solution for you regarding the amount of money you are spending for your wedding.... elope. Congratulations.

 

I'm a night manager at the local Wendy's. I guess I've made it pretty far!
I can't believe there are those who ask for opinions and then scream about the responses.
As far as what you should have done it's up to you. If you want to spend money on a junky 10-bolt with the intention of getting a better diff then by all means... knock yourself out. Good logic there. LOL

 

Lookie here... Hypocrisy? I think so. LOL
I suppose this should directly apply to a 10-bolt and those, "fu<kin catalog racers.." who want to spend the extra cash on a stouter product, right?

 

Look man, you're talking about being constructive, so let's keep this mature. There's no need to imply that I'm "dense" or "simple-minded". You need to chill out and learn how to accept other people's points of view...

I look at it this way.

-You don't go to the track that often
-When you do go, you launch conservatively
-You're running low on cash temporarily
-You're getting a 12-bolt in the future

So MY point is, why bother upgrading/trying to make the 10-bolt stronger when you probably won't even break it in the first place?? Get it?

 

:golf clap: Thank you.

 

Oh, and another thing, no matter what you do, you can't really beef up the 10-bolt. The main weakness is the size (7 5/8" ring gear), so no matter what kind of axles, posi unit, gears, etc you put in, it's still going to be weak.


And launching hard makes people retarded? ****, I never knew that! I guess when I flash the stall off the line, I'm automatically considered a retard.

Retarded for the fact that I simply don't care if my 10-bolt breaks, because I see it as an opportunity to UPGRADE TO A 12-BOLT.

 

+1.

 

If you're not gonna beat on your car you won't need
an upgraded rear end.

They are weak, but contrary to popular belief,
they aren't made of glass....

 

But what is made out of glass is a Zexel Torsen carrier.
I agree w/ you somewhat. It's not power or really even torque that kills them, but shock to the driveline. I can't count the amount of threads I've read from here from those who've popped their diff's just from being stupid on the street on street tires and virtually nothing done to the motor.

 

Ennhh, I see how you could say that, but in my mind the risk this guy was wanting to take could possibly destroy a whole engine, which is much more costly to fix in the long run than blowing up a 10 bolt. As was stated, 10 bolts are a dime a dozen now adays, so if he blows his "upgraded" 10 bolt, he can always get another for $200. My original point was, not all of us have millions to dump on parts at the drop of a hat. Sometimes we dont know WHEN we will have $2k to spend on a rear, or this or that. I understand where this guy is coming from. We each weigh our own options at that given time and sometimes we need to buy some time. I am personally waiting on $$ right now to build that engine I spoke of, because Im not going to go through all the trouble and spend $2500 now on an engine that will most likely handle what Im going to do just to not be sure, and blow it up because I know the engine I need is going to run around 5K. Here, were not talking about $5k. Were talking about a few hundred bucks to give him a little more peace of mind over a bone stock 10 bolt. IMO, hes not wasting the $$ and I would do the same thing in his position. The same reason I bought a used engine, then a used cc305, used crane gold RR's, used ORY, used Hooker catback, and built my own tranny (with a used 2500 stall) and swapped used 3.42's into my "p.o.s." 10 bolt; and I can whoop an LS1 vettes *** to about 120. Hmmm, let me think, I did all the work msyelf which is half the fun,....and I think in the end it cost about $1700. I think the only new things I bought were lifters, TB, SFC's, and LCA's, oh and the LT's which were second hand but never bolted on. This is now buying me time until I can afford to drop the $5 on the forged engine to support the S/C and nitrous. Would you consider that too a waste of $$? Dont forget, with the forged engine ill also need all the perripherals (sp?) to support it.

 

No matter how lengthy your post is trying to explain throwing money at a turdy 10-bolt it still won't convince me it's the right thing to do. ESPECIALLY when the primary motive is to save enough money to upgrade.
Is there a reason why you are trying to explain your situation to a "fu<kin catalog racer.."?
BTW.. how many times must you be told a 10-bolt in an auto car will withstand much more abuse than a manual.

 

You'll be fine. You dont run slicks or even race. The aftermaket axels were the cheapest, good decision.

I wouldnt spend the money on a 12 bolt if you dont race its a waste of money. Just be easy on your current rearend.

In my personal opinion i wouldnt think about a 12 bolt anyways if you really want and to upgrade then get a 9in. Then you can throw the 4.11s in at the track and then put the gas milage gears in on for the drive home. Also a stronger rear imho.

l8r
James

 

My opinion based on personal experience:

1. Don't bother beefing up a 10-bolt that's not going to see hard use. Drive it til it breaks or you have the funds for the 12-bolt.

2. Cancel the wedding. If she'd rather spend the money on a honeymoon that lasts a week than a solid rear that'll give much longer dependable enjoyment, you won't ever have the extra funds to get the 12-bolt.

 

Hmm, night manager @ Wendy's? Wow, what an accomplishment. Your parents must be proud...I'm not asking your opinion as to whether or not you thought what I was doing to be a good idea. I could give a **** less what you think in terms of whether it was a good idea, especially since you've made it so far in your life with your personal life decisions. BTW, how many times a day do you ask, "Would you like fries with that?"

The whole point of this thread was to ask experienced and knowledgeable members what they thought in terms of my combination of parts, and also asked what other possible ideas anyone might have in terms of further "beefing" the rear end up.

As far as your sarcastic "good logic" remark, you think much too narrowly. Yes, my ultimate goal is a 12-bolt rear, but as of now, it's just not financially feasible for my current budget. Your reasoning would propose that if someone were to want a Corvette, that they should just go out and buy one, because any other car would be illogical if their ultimate goal was a Corvette. You appear as if you would continue to stand behind your argument, regardless of the situation. If someone wants a Vette, but they're in high school, that would be ludicrous to even attempt to make such a decision. Even IF they could afford it, (which they couldn't- not in high school), the cost in insurance would be unreasonable for a person that young. How about another situation? What if some family just had a child and just bought a new house? Should they go out and buy a Corvette? Or should they settle for a more financially reasonable car until their money situation improves? By your logic, people should go out and build their "dream house" they ultimately want to live in for the remainder of their lives, regardless of the situation. Guess what? Most people don't have such opportunities, so they settle for something lesser, which they will slowly "upgrade" until their financial situation is more favorable, and THEN THEY WILL BUY WHAT THEY REALLY WANT.

See, I beefed up my 10-bolt, because I probably won't have that kind of "free" cash available until after my wedding in June. I really would rather not go without my "weekend toy" for 8 months, just so I can buy a friggin' 12-bolt. Instead, I'll beef this one up, because the parts I upgraded NEEDED to be replaced anyways due to damage. So, in other words, my options were: (1) Let it sit for 8+ months until I can afford a 12-bolt, (2) Find a junkyard 10-bolt to slap underneath there for $200-400, or (3) Invest about $500 in my current rear end and drive on that until I can afford a 12-bolt. See, I've already upgraded to some beefy parts before this rebuild, and with these other upgraded parts, this will increase the resale value of this rear end when I can afford to upgrade. In other words, I can now turn around and sell this "built" assembly to someone else, who may be looking for an affordable "upgrade", which will allow me to recoup my losses. I am most certain that my rear end will be in excellent condition when I go to sell it, since I don't really race all that often anymore (my priorities may differ from some of the members here), I NEVER launch hard, and I SELDOM use drag slicks. By going the route I chose, I can now enjoy my car until I can afford a 12-bolt, as well as recoup some of the money I invested in beefing up the 10-bolt. Either that, or when it comes times to go to a 12-bolt, I'll throw this rear end underneath my fiancee's Trans Am, to replace her "mostly stock" 10-bolt. Now, tell me again who here has the "good logic"?