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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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Question Budget 9in..

A friend of mine has a 9in out of a old Lincoln, and I was wondering how hard would it be to fab it to work in my 95 t/a, I have a 10 housing and axles laying around for parts that I could take the brackets off of and I could make a torque arm mount.. What else needs to be done to make this work? This is a budget project.. Or would it be cheaper to just buy a moser 9in housing and axle kit and use a old center section? This Lincoln 9in has a gm lug pattern it seems and could get it for prolly $100.. And just pay him for the fab work.. Whats some opinions..
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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I do alot of fab work welding etc. For the price of a moser you can't beat it
you get alot higher quality parts and you simply can't beat the price

The tq arm mount will take a min. of 4hrs. to fab up
cut the housing, new housing ends
I don't think you can beat there price and come close to the quality
Old Feb 20, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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"This Lincoln 9in has a gm lug pattern it seems". You meen its the right width and 4,75"bc? Lincoln usually have 5"bc, or 4,5" as most Ford.
In that case its gona be MUCH cheaper than a Moser!
A lot of fabbing , but you can buy a TA bracket from Currie for around $160 witch saves you "min 4hr."
Check for straightness after welding to.
You don't need new housing ends, you could fab. new brackets for the calipers.

If it's a 28 spline with std centersection it's not very strong, but vay better then the 10b 7,5".. and not a waste of money to upgrade later.

If you need new axles, you can buy moser custom 31 spline axles, used nodular centersection with posi or locker, new wheel bearings, etc.
This can be done for less then $1000, including everything, if you have the time and skills or friends to help out.

This is what I plan on doing, just need axles and TA bracket, and a lot of time.. but for me it'll cost $3500 for a moser incl. tax, toll, freight
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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Not to steal the thread, I can get a 9" rear set up for a third gen (thats what it will go in) for 400 bucks. Is it worth it? I still have to go through the carrier also replace the ring and pinion w/ new parts. Sorry if i come off as stealing the thread, I am not.
Old Feb 20, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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becareful that it is infact a 9 inch

I have a 69 Lincoln Mark III and the rear looks like a 9" but it is really a 9 3/8".
A completely different rear end, there are a couple small differences in the centersection(externally).

these rears where found in late 60's T-birds and Mark III's and maybe others
Old Feb 20, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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$3500????
I called moser and 5 days later I had a 9" to my door for $2280 with a steel spool , aluminum center, Pro race gears, bilet pinion support, 1350 yoke, 35 spline axles/gun drilled, 3" ARP studs.....

I wouldn't waste my time trying do do this type of swap.....you also need welding wire, gas, electricy time, grinding wheels, cut-off wheels, How are you going to mak new caliper barackets cheaper than the price of a set of housing ends? I don't see it...but then again I probly don't know what i'm talking about since I've never done any of this before
Old Feb 20, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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I know this sounds smart ***, I really don't mean it that way, so sorry in advance. But if you are asking here, I'd say it's too much work. IF one had access to all the right tools and plenty of time and the skills, have at it. But as I said, at least one of these things is likely lacking. It's a big job and while no ultra high precision, needs to be done right or all the work could go for nought. I am no pro, but I know people who are and I don't think any of them would do this unless they were broke and there was no other way.

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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rskrause
I know this sounds smart ***, I really don't mean it that way, so sorry in advance. But if you are asking here, I'd say it's too much work. IF one had access to all the right tools and plenty of time and the skills, have at it. But as I said, at least one of these things is likely lacking. It's a big job and while no ultra high precision, needs to be done right or all the work could go for nought. I am no pro, but I know people who are and I don't think any of them would do this unless they were broke and there was no other way.

Rich
thats what I was trying to say....I have every tool you could want, a rack of material and I would not waste my time to even attemt this.....Moser does rears and nuthing but rears and you can't beat a man at their own trade. He is also right..its not blue printing a motor but it does need to be perfect or your car will look like a ol pulp wood truck ridin down the road crooked
Old Feb 21, 2007 | 12:48 PM
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Yes, it'll take a lot of time and it isn't easy, but you'll save a lot of money. The topic was "Budget 9inch" and my opinion is still the same..
For me it's an interresting projekt and it gives me some satisfaction to make my own stuff.

If the housing is right width, it's easier to make caliper brackets then cut'n weld housing ends. 1/8" or so steel sheetmetal is'nt $80.
A moser wouldn't be $2280 at MY door.. if it was, I still save more then $1000
Old Feb 21, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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have you made the 1/8" caliper brackets work for you before? sounds silly if you ask me...If you even have to ask how to do this then you are not going to save $1000..b/c for one you don't have the tools or knowledge and the project won't end well.
I'm not trying to argue with you ....all I can tell you is what I know. I have done these things before.....and you can't beat mosers price
$80 in caliper brackets...making them from 1/8 is foolish....you are going to have to buy bolts bearings seals yoke gears HOUSING ENDS, your going to have to get a tq arm bracket....
get out a calculator and do the math...let me know what you come up with
Old Feb 22, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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new moser custom axles $315, wheelbearings $68, wheelstuds $50, TA-bracket $160, = $593
9" banjo $?, 10b banjo for brackets $? (in my case $100 for both)
and something for welding wire, gas, electricy time, grinding wheels, cut-off wheels.

Bolt on or weld on caliper brackets, something like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Metri...81080167QQrdZ1
Not to hard to make yourself.

For you guy's in US, I guess a housing/axle-package for $985 is best, but he seemed to have the right width AND axles.


With my used Tex-racing center, (locker,billet 1350-yoke, ARP-bolts, Strange N-housing) I'm at $1300 + a lot of work..
You may think it's not worth it, but I need money for transmission, converter, driveshaft, ECU, injectors, some engine parts and more.
Not to mention all the money that went in the engine before..
Old Feb 22, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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I'm thinking of buying a moser housing and axle kit $985, and then getting a complete center section off ebay ~$350. I think that's budget!
Old Feb 22, 2007 | 11:23 PM
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I'm thinking of buying a moser housing and axle kit $985, and then getting a complete center section off ebay ~$350. I think that's budget!

Thats what I did. I went and got a good 9 inch rear from a local junk yard, purchased the housing and axle kit from Moser and had the center section locally cleaned and assembled with new bearings and gear set and Detroit tru-trac. The center section is not as strong as the Moser unit but at the time my budget was tight and wansn't making huge power.
Old Feb 23, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 97pontta
Thats what I did. I went and got a good 9 inch rear from a local junk yard, purchased the housing and axle kit from Moser and had the center section locally cleaned and assembled with new bearings and gear set and Detroit tru-trac. The center section is not as strong as the Moser unit but at the time my budget was tight and wansn't making huge power.
how much did you pay for this total???

Theoretically, that should work fine right?

Find an old ford 9", rebuild it with all moser internals, and get a good welder to put on the backing plates right???
Old Feb 23, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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NO, Buy the housing and axle kit from moser. It's about 1k. Then get a junkyard 9in and take out the center section and put it in your brand new housing and viola, budget 9in. Only gotta make sure the splines match. That's why i'm gonna get my center section off ebay, that way i can get at least 31 spline. Most stockers are 28 spline.

I havn't done this yet, but that is my plan.



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